Anyone else notice ticks on the outside of your hives? I probably killed 20 today off both of mine. Something seems to attract them to it. Heat maybe?
Quote from: Nock on July 10, 2019, 12:02:24 AM
Anyone else notice ticks on the outside of your hives? I probably killed 20 today off both of mine. Something seems to attract them to it. Heat maybe?
I have not noticed this Nock. Strange situation I agree, maybe others have and can explain?
I have never seen ticks on my hives. I will have to keep an eye for them.
Jim Altmiller
They are attracted to carbon dioxide, so the bees exhaling probably attracts them.
Are they causing any harm?
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I haven't seen any ticka around a hive either. I have lots of deer here that are full of ticks. ... but I turn the chickens loose every day, and I'm guessing they clean up a lot of the ticks, along with a lot of other things.
I remember hiding under a hay wagon turkey hunting in the rain in Ky and watching so many ticks crawling on me. So many tropical birds here in Florida May keep the pop down. Ice got fat mice roaming around my hives
Quote from: Sledin on July 10, 2019, 12:30:48 PM
They are attracted to carbon dioxide, so the bees exhaling probably attracts them.
Are they causing any harm?
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Looked that up. Your right. Didn?t know that. They?re not bothering the bees.
I will guess that it has nothing to do with the bees. Any ticks in the hive? With that many ticks around you might consider some free range chickens. Lock them up at night so the predators don't get them.
Quote from: ed/La. on July 10, 2019, 05:19:49 PM
I will guess that it has nothing to do with the bees. Any ticks in the hive? With that many ticks around you might consider some free range chickens. Lock them up at night so the predators don't get them.
We had game chickens when I was young, Dare a tick to show himself! :wink:
We kill coyotes in broad day light trying Break into chickens. I also killed one bobcat from the green house. Since the price of fur went West the young boys don't make spending money selling furs. I have never seen ticks on any hive4s.
Just to be sure...what you are seeing is ticks and not small hive beetles right?
Quote from: BAHBEEs on July 11, 2019, 05:58:55 PM
Just to be sure...what you are seeing is ticks and not small hive beetles right?
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Definitely ticks.
That?s for sure. 😄
Quote from: paus on July 10, 2019, 05:51:37 PM
We kill coyotes in broad day light trying Break into chickens. I also killed one bobcat from the green house. Since the price of fur went West the young boys don't make spending money selling furs. I have never seen ticks on any hive4s.
Those coyotes are some rough customers all right. Are there dogs of a certain breed do any good against coyotes?
Quote from: Ben Framed on July 14, 2019, 10:22:16 PM
Quote from: paus on July 10, 2019, 05:51:37 PM
We kill coyotes in broad day light trying Break into chickens. I also killed one bobcat from the green house. Since the price of fur went West the young boys don't make spending money selling furs. I have never seen ticks on any hive4s.
Those coyotes are some rough customers all right. Are there dogs of a certain breed do any good against coyotes?
Have you ever seen the Nightvision videos of what Coyotes do to dogs - even big dogs? ... they send in a female coyote that's in heat. She flirts with the dog, dancing, snuggling, and teasing him. As she plays with him, she slowly leads him away from home and into the open. At a certain point, she turns on him with absolute violence, just as the rest of the pack appears (out of nowhere). It takes seconds before the dog is down - and they tear him to shreds. ...
The commentator on the videos I watched (some yrs ago now) said that no dog breed was immune to this approach from the coyotes. ... fwiw.
Quote from: CoolBees on July 14, 2019, 11:12:13 PM
Quote from: Ben Framed on July 14, 2019, 10:22:16 PM
Quote from: paus on July 10, 2019, 05:51:37 PM
We kill coyotes in broad day light trying Break into chickens. I also killed one bobcat from the green house. Since the price of fur went West the young boys don't make spending money selling furs. I have never seen ticks on any hive4s.
Those coyotes are some rough customers all right. Are there dogs of a certain breed do any good against coyotes?
Have you ever seen the Nightvision videos of what Coyotes do to dogs - even big dogs? ... they send in a female coyote that's in heat. She flirts with the dog, dancing, snuggling, and teasing him. As she plays with him, she slowly leads him away from home and into the open. At a certain point, she turns on him with absolute violence, just as the rest of the pack appears (out of nowhere). It takes seconds before the dog is down - and they tear him to shreds. ...
The commentator on the videos I watched (some yrs ago now) said that no dog breed was immune to this approach from the coyotes. ... fwiw.
I have not seen one of those videos Alan. Cunning, Conniving, Creatures!!
Quote from: CoolBees on July 14, 2019, 11:12:13 PM
Quote from: Ben Framed on July 14, 2019, 10:22:16 PM
Quote from: paus on July 10, 2019, 05:51:37 PM
We kill coyotes in broad day light trying Break into chickens. I also killed one bobcat from the green house. Since the price of fur went West the young boys don't make spending money selling furs. I have never seen ticks on any hive4s.
Those coyotes are some rough customers all right. Are there dogs of a certain breed do any good against coyotes?
Have you ever seen the Nightvision videos of what Coyotes do to dogs - even big dogs? ... they send in a female coyote that's in heat. She flirts with the dog, dancing, snuggling, and teasing him. As she plays with him, she slowly leads him away from home and into the open. At a certain point, she turns on him with absolute violence, just as the rest of the pack appears (out of nowhere). It takes seconds before the dog is down - and they tear him to shreds. ...
The commentator on the videos I watched (some yrs ago now) said that no dog breed was immune to this approach from the coyotes. ... fwiw.
Amazing how smart and adaptable coyotes are! Although I do believe I know of a kind of dog that would be immune to this technique . . . a female dog! :wink: :cheesy: Seriously though, the cunning of coyotes is one of the reasons we have both a male and a female LGD (livestock guardian dog). This way when the coyotes try a trick like this to lure away a dog, one dog goes to investigate the threat (usually the male) and the other dog (usually the female) will stay with the livestock. Thankfully we don?t have much trouble with coyotes around us though, because they sure are tricky!
Quote from: The15thMember on July 15, 2019, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: CoolBees on July 14, 2019, 11:12:13 PM
Quote from: Ben Framed on July 14, 2019, 10:22:16 PM
Quote from: paus on July 10, 2019, 05:51:37 PM
We kill coyotes in broad day light trying Break into chickens. I also killed one bobcat from the green house. Since the price of fur went West the young boys don't make spending money selling furs. I have never seen ticks on any hive4s.
Those coyotes are some rough customers all right. Are there dogs of a certain breed do any good against coyotes?
Have you ever seen the Nightvision videos of what Coyotes do to dogs - even big dogs? ... they send in a female coyote that's in heat. She flirts with the dog, dancing, snuggling, and teasing him. As she plays with him, she slowly leads him away from home and into the open. At a certain point, she turns on him with absolute violence, just as the rest of the pack appears (out of nowhere). It takes seconds before the dog is down - and they tear him to shreds. ...
The commentator on the videos I watched (some yrs ago now) said that no dog breed was immune to this approach from the coyotes. ... fwiw.
Amazing how smart and adaptable coyotes are! Although I do believe I know of a kind of dog that would be immune to this technique . . . a female dog! :wink: :cheesy: Seriously though, the cunning of coyotes is one of the reasons we have both a male and a female LGD (livestock guardian dog). This way when the coyotes try a trick like this to lure away a dog, one dog goes to investigate the threat (usually the male) and the other dog (usually the female) will stay with the livestock. Thankfully we don?t have much trouble with coyotes around us though, because they sure are tricky!
Good reasoning Member. Good Post!! :grin:
Quote from: The15thMember on July 15, 2019, 12:18:16 AM
... Although I do believe I know of a kind of dog that would be immune to this technique . . . a female dog! :wink: :cheesy: ...
Touche! :grin: :grin: :grin:
Smartest critter in the wild. Lots of respect for them. But I catch every one I can.
Here in the mountains of West Virginia we have plenty of coyotes and they used to check out my chicken house at night. My 2 dogs will chase them down and drag one home from time to time but I prefer to shoot them long range before they get close. Solar motion sensor lights at the chicken coop that have been modified with a buzzer generally makes them run.
Nock, last night I watched a special report about Lyme disease and ticks. The following is not the exact article but related. Plum island, off of Long Island is one of the supposed research areas that was involved. Now, easternLong Island is a trouble spot. The following article does not go into detail but hits the highlights. Incognito be aware.
Phillip
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-passes-amendment-ordering-pentagon-to-investigate-whether-ticks-were-weaponized/
https://www.newsday.com/news/health/lone-star-tick-sbu-1.17989946
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-orders-pentagon-to-review-whether-it-turned-ticks-into-biological-weapons
Quote from: Ben Framed on July 19, 2019, 09:14:27 AM
Nock, last night I watched a special report about Lyme desires and ticks. The following is not the exact article but related. Plumb island, off of Long Island is one of the supposed research areas that was involved. Now, easternLong Island is a trouble spot. The following article does not go into detail but hits the highlights. Incognito be aware.
Phillip
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-passes-amendment-ordering-pentagon-to-investigate-whether-ticks-were-weaponized/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-passes-amendment-ordering-pentagon-to-investigate-whether-ticks-were-weaponized/)
https://www.newsday.com/news/health/lone-star-tick-sbu-1.17989946 (https://www.newsday.com/news/health/lone-star-tick-sbu-1.17989946)
Oh, I am aware.
17 miles from Plum Island, NY to Lyme, Ct. Merely a coincidence!
I hunt deer in the woods of Southold township. Plum Island is part of that town. Some hunters will not go there because of the ticks.
I use sawyer permethrin to guard against ticks.
https://www.questoutdoors.com/sawyer-permethrin-12oz-trigger-spray-for-clothing.html?id=32164849&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIv_q164DB4wIVDT0MCh2D1ASUEAQYBCABEgLPVPD_BwE (https://www.questoutdoors.com/sawyer-permethrin-12oz-trigger-spray-for-clothing.html?id=32164849&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIv_q164DB4wIVDT0MCh2D1ASUEAQYBCABEgLPVPD_BwE)
Nock, yes, I have seen ticks on my hives. I believe the ticks are attracted to vibrations of bees and carbon dioxide.
BenFramed: Plum Island was a pathogen lab with P4 security rating circa 2005, if we are talking the same lab as there may be more than one lab on plum island. Plum island was very secretive, kinda weird if ya ask me. Then in 2005 Rocky Mtn Laboratory added a P4 facility.
Not possible for a tick to escape a P4 laboratory, there are only a hand full of P4 labs in the world. Doors open automatically with sensors on personnel, air is incinerated, sealed vented space suits are required when working with P4 pathogens such as Ebola. I worked at Rocky Mtn Lab for over 2 decades. Federal armed guards are at every entrance. Identification is always displayed. Armed guards always present. Personnel is scrutinized, finger printed, even my blood was taken every year, checked and stored to this day.
Quote from: van from Arkansas on July 19, 2019, 11:27:20 AM
Nock, yes, I have seen ticks on my hives. I believe the ticks are attracted to vibrations of bees and carbon dioxide.
BenFramed: Plum Island was a pathogen lab with P4 security rating circa 2005, if we are talking the same lab as there may be more than one lab on plum island. Plum island was very secretive, kinda weird if ya ask me. Then in 2005 Rocky Mtn Laboratory added a P4 facility.
Not possible for a tick to escape a P4 laboratory, there are only a hand full of P4 labs in the world. Doors open automatically with sensors on personnel, air is incinerated, sealed vented space suits are required when working with P4 pathogens such as Ebola. I worked at Rocky Mtn Lab for over 2 decades. Federal armed guards are at every entrance. Identification is always displayed. Armed guards always present. Personnel is scrutinized, finger printed, even my blood was taken every year, checked and stored to this day.
Van, I was not suggesting that the ticks escaped. Which is the closest to impossible as can be contained by humans . I know all little about the security there. I have a friend that worked there and she told me it is one of, if not the best security facilities anywhere. That is all she would or did tell me. But that was enough to Concur with what are saying, you are right very secretive. I was pointing out that eastern Long Island, which is just across the way is infested with ticks carrying Lyme disease. There is a high danger there . Very mush higher than a normal infestation in particular area. The News people are now talking about this. And. the House is investigating possible practices by the military concerning ticks and Lyme disease, this is what I was talking about. Concerned for and warning my New York friends about this, especially residents of that area who may not have heard of this sever threat. Namely incognito. Was who I was thinking about as I see he lives on Long Island. I must have not been clear on this, and thank you for pointing this out giving me an opportunity to make my intent clear.
Phillip
Ben, agree with your post. All I can say about Plum Island is already stated. Very secretive, very secure and as you pointed out, not by me, but Military operation, Your correct, as usual Mr. Ben. Now no more talk about Plum Island or US Marshall?s are gonna be knocking on our doors.
Ticks are average in Arkansas this year, which means, one step off driveway and I find a tick on me. Last year I acquired tick fever from a tick which I am fairly sure the tick came from my apiary area.... lots of clover, lots of deer, lots of ticks. I now wear treated boots if I walk in grass in apiary off trail or almost guaranteed a tick bite if no treated boots.
Blessings
Quote from: van from Arkansas on July 19, 2019, 02:55:22 PM
Ben, agree with your post. All I can say about Plum Island is already stated. Very secretive, very secure and as you pointed out, not by me, but Military operation, Your correct, as usual Mr. Ben. Now no more talk about Plum Island or US Marshall?s are gonna be knocking on our doors.
Ticks are average in Arkansas this year, which means, one step off driveway and I find a tick on me. Last year I acquired tick fever from a tick which I am fairly sure the tick came from my apiary area.... lots of clover, lots of deer, lots of ticks. I now wear treated boots if I walk in grass in apiary off trail or almost guaranteed a tick bite if no treated boots.
Blessings
?Now no more talk about Plum Island or US Marshall?s are gonna be knocking on our doors.?
😁. Yes they may, hopping on our steps like grasshoppers, as they say . :wink:
When I was s boy one of our Neighbors went on a church camp outing in Hardy, Arkansas. She came home very sick, running a high fever. The doctors Diagnosed, to late, tick fever. I am happy that you caught yours in time. I don?t blame you for your precautions, especially in your area. Is tick fever a common problem there? Can you contact it once you have had it or does your body develop an immunity? Be safe and take care Mr Van.
Blessings back to you.
Phillip
I figure it?s a matter of time before I come down with something.
As some other members have mentioned, chickens or guineas are great for tick control. When we first moved to our property our dogs were picking up lots of ticks, even though their flea meds are supposed to help with ticks. Our Pomeranian especially had trouble since she?s basically walking Velcro. After we let our chickens free range and even now with the chickens just in the back yard the ticks have decreased significantly.
Quote from: Ben Framed on July 19, 2019, 03:43:18 PM
Quote from: van from Arkansas on July 19, 2019, 02:55:22 PM
Ben, agree with your post. All I can say about Plum Island is already stated. Very secretive, very secure and as you pointed out, not by me, but Military operation, Your correct, as usual Mr. Ben. Now no more talk about Plum Island or US Marshall?s are gonna be knocking on our doors.
Ticks are average in Arkansas this year, which means, one step off driveway and I find a tick on me. Last year I acquired tick fever from a tick which I am fairly sure the tick came from my apiary area.... lots of clover, lots of deer, lots of ticks. I now wear treated boots if I walk in grass in apiary off trail or almost guaranteed a tick bite if no treated boots.
Blessings
?Now no more talk about Plum Island or US Marshall?s are gonna be knocking on our doors.?
😁. Yes they may, hopping on our steps like grasshoppers, as they say . :wink:
When I was s boy one of our Neighbors went on a church camp outing in Hardy, Arkansas. She came home very sick, running a high fever. The doctors Diagnosed, to late, tick fever. I am happy that you caught yours in time. I don?t blame you for your precautions, especially in your area. Is tick fever a common problem there? Can you contact it once you have had it or does your body develop an immunity? Be safe and take care Mr Van.
Blessings back to you.
Phillip
Mr. Ben, my body would have developed immunity only to the particular tick disease I was exposed to. There are at least 6 different tick borne diseases with more discovered as time goes on.
Member, agreed guineas are great at eradicating ticks. However, my area is restricted and no fowl is allowed. This is to protect my property from a chicken/hog ranch opening up next door.
Mr. Ben, my body would have developed immunity only to the particular tick disease I was exposed to. There are at least 6 different tick borne diseases with more discovered as time goes on.
Yes lymes being one. I do not recognize the other 4?
We do not have the chicken 🐓 restriction here as far as owning chickens 🐓 go; except; the restriction that my wife has placed. We have side walks around our home, to our garden, patio area and flower garden, dog pen area further from the house and shop, plus a wrap around deck joining our sunroom and built in screened porch area as well as along the back of our home. The evidence left on those places by the chickens is something that she just can?t seem to understand or get use to ??? 😁
So I can?t argue with that, she is very tolerant and puts up with everything else.
Phillip
I believe the government has released too many diseases upon us people https://apple.news/A-HF9qi2BOQy0EXgPrZDQjA
Quote from: saltybluegrass on July 19, 2019, 11:26:37 PM
I believe the government has released too many diseases upon us people https://apple.news/A-HF9qi2BOQy0EXgPrZDQjA
Anything is possible, but Salty I hope not. I will look at your link when I have more concentration time in the morning.
Phillip
Quote from: Nock on July 19, 2019, 04:51:39 PM
I figure it?s a matter of time before I come down with something.
Nock, are the ticks only in that one area of you dwelling or apiary area, or are they like that all over you surroundings? Is this at your home. If so, in a sever situation, I would seriously consider Members recommendation of chickens or guineas. Especially game chickens. They are like tick vacuum cleaners!
Phillip
Quote from: van from Arkansas on July 19, 2019, 11:27:20 AM
Not possible for a tick to escape a P4 laboratory....
I want to believe you. But no human effort is perfect.
Are you certain that every crack and crevice in the building / lab is sealed - where the electric, pluming and ventilation run through the walls, ceiling, floor?
There is no crack anywhere where a tick can call through, none?
Foundations don't settle? Windows don't leak?
The systems never failed or were down for maintenance from time to time.
Every mishap was reported?
The east end of Long Island is loaded with tick hosting deer.
Seals frequent Plumb Island, do they host ticks?
The ferry to Connecticut is real close to the ferry to Plum Island.
I will remain skeptical about where Lyme disease originated.
Tick precautions for the Long Island woods:
Wear a permethrin treated skin tight base layer and hat- think scent free garments used for hunting, thin baseball socks over regular socks. Use the permethrin around all openings such as cuffs, collars, zippers and let dry (you don't need to treat the entire garment). You don't need to treat the outer garments if you treat the base layer. Keep everything tucked into each other. Wear treated high rubber boots. Undress in the garage on a treated tarp. I also lay down a permethrin treated bed sheet in the back of my SUV that I store my hunting gear on. I store my hunting clothes in sealed bags with a treated washcloth thrown in for good measure. Check all cracks and crevices for ticks especially at the waist line and hair. Get tested and treated immediately if you find a tick embedded in you.
Quote from: incognito on July 20, 2019, 01:37:55 AM
Quote from: van from Arkansas on July 19, 2019, 11:27:20 AM
Not possible for a tick to escape a P4 laboratory....
I want to believe you. But no human effort is perfect.
Are you certain that every crack and crevice in the building / lab is sealed - where the electric, pluming and ventilation run through the walls, ceiling, floor?
There is no crack anywhere where a tick can call through, none?
Foundations don't settle? Windows don't leak?
The systems never failed or were down for maintenance from time to time.
Every mishap was reported?
The east end of Long Island is loaded with tick hosting deer.
Seals frequent Plumb Island, do they host ticks?
The ferry to Connecticut is real close to the ferry to Plum Island.
I will remain skeptical about where Lyme disease originated.
Tick precautions for the Long Island woods:
Wear a permethrin treated skin tight base layer and hat- think scent free garments used for hunting, thin baseball socks over regular socks. Use the permethrin around all openings such as cuffs, collars, zippers and let dry (you don't need to treat the entire garment). You don't need to treat the outer garments if you treat the base layer. Keep everything tucked into each other. Wear treated high rubber boots. Undress in the garage on a treated tarp. I also lay down a permethrin treated bed sheet in the back of my SUV that I store my hunting gear on. I store my hunting clothes in sealed bags with a treated washcloth thrown in for good measure. Check all cracks and crevices for ticks especially at the waist line and hair. Get tested and treated immediately if you find a tick embedded in you.
This is not good. If the infected tick does bite you, can the damage to you body be avoided or stopped with early treatment? Is there and inoculation for this disease?
Phillip
Quote from: Ben Framed on July 20, 2019, 02:28:54 AM
This is not good. If the infected tick does bite you, can the damage to you body be avoided or stopped with early treatment? Is there and inoculation for this disease?
Phillip
Yes, there is early detection and treatment.
https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/treatment/index.html
There used to be an inoculation.
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/5/7/17314716/lyme-disease-vaccine-history-effectiveness
Quote from: incognito on July 20, 2019, 02:40:13 AM
Quote from: Ben Framed on July 20, 2019, 02:28:54 AM
This is not good. If the infected tick does bite you, can the damage to you body be avoided or stopped with early treatment? Is there and inoculation for this disease?
Phillip
Yes, there is early detection and treatment.
https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/treatment/index.html
There used to be an inoculation.
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/5/7/17314716/lyme-disease-vaccine-history-effectiveness
Thank you for the information.
Phillip
Quote from: Ben Framed on July 20, 2019, 12:24:01 AM
Quote from: Nock on July 19, 2019, 04:51:39 PM
I figure it?s a matter of time before I come down with something.
Nock, are the ticks only in that one area of you dwelling or apiary area, or are they like that all over you surroundings? Is this at your home. If so, in a sever situation, I would seriously consider Members recommendation of chickens or guineas. Especially game chickens. They are like tick vacuum cleaners!
Phillip
I very rarely get any in my yard around the house. I brought the question up because of where my hives are currently. It?s a grown up field. Be prime tick ground. When they were at home I would notice a tick or two every now again on the hives. But nothing like where they are now. We do have chickens but they aren?t free ranging any at the moment. Still pretty small. But will be soon. I agree chickens do work for several things.
I want to believe you. But no human effort is perfect.
Agreed. Please consider: relate to escaping from a Russian high security prison. Don?t know if you are familiar with such a prison. I would say, prisoner escape not possible.
Anyway, I wear treated boots in my apiary and I still obtain an occasional tick. Ticks are just part of my landscape. I could spray and rid the ticks but I fear harm to my bees so I just endure the dad burn ticks as Hoss used to say on Bonanza.