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Title: My First year, Rookie Mistakes!
Post by: rockink on September 03, 2019, 01:38:20 PM
I'm posting this to help others and take constructive comments from other beekeepers.

I know I made plenty of mistakes so if you feel that you need to reiterate that point by all means!

I'm actually at the 18mo. mark however I've learned a ton, unfortunately partially at the expense of my bee's.

Last year I read, watched, asked, etc.. etc.. I thought I was in pretty good shape.

I split hives, I re queened hives and I even wintered all 5 of my hives.. ( I thought I was golden)

Fast forward to spring 2019.

Here are the mistakes that come immediately to mind and lessons I've learned.


Bottom line...I was really bad steward of my bees this year and as a result they all of them swarmed and I lost 1 hive. However because of my trials and tribulations I feel as I much better prepared to go in to winter and take next spring head on.

Thanks,
Ken
Title: Re: My First year, Rookie Mistakes!
Post by: The15thMember on September 03, 2019, 02:23:57 PM
I'm at the 18 month mark as well, and these are all really good tips.  I think the main lesson that you learned is that as a beginner (and by "beginner" I mean someone who has been keeping bees for only a few years or less) you really need to keep tabs on what is going on in your hives.  When you are new, you don't know the point at which issues become major problems until it's too late, unless you are checking on your bees regularly to see problems progressing.  Also as a beginner, you don't have loads of hives and resources (drawn comb, brood, extra bees, queens, equipment, etc.) to support a hive with a problem.   Sorry that the year hasn't quite gone as planned for you, but as long as you are learning from your experiences and the experiences of others, no experience is a truly bad one. 
Title: Re: My First year, Rookie Mistakes!
Post by: rockink on September 03, 2019, 02:47:52 PM
Your reply is spot on! That sums it up exactly! Unfortunately most of my issues could have been prevented!

Title: Re: My First year, Rookie Mistakes!
Post by: iddee on September 03, 2019, 05:41:31 PM
That's just terrible. ME, I've neber mad a mistaake.  :shocked:
Title: Re: My First year, Rookie Mistakes!
Post by: van from Arkansas on September 03, 2019, 07:56:31 PM
Rock, you be just North of me.  I am on Norfork Lake, just across the state line in HillBilly country.  If you need some queens in 2020, let me know and I will give for free.  I do not mail so you would have to drive.  I am bias of course, but I have the best genetics for honeybees in Arkansas, probably in the entire Southern USA.  My bees pass the no smoke, gentle bare hand waive test and are good honey producers.  I also instruct artificial insemination AI, techniques, again at zero cost.  Most charge $800-$1200 a day for this.  A little bit early for you, I know,  just letting you know.  AI is intensive and expensive equipment is required.

Beetles are a big issue in these parts and more of a threat than Varroa.  Consider freeze spray for Beetles.

I?ll be at the Baxter county fair this month at the bee both if you care to visit.  Come see my bees anytime.

Blessings
Van
Title: Re: My First year, Rookie Mistakes!
Post by: Ben Framed on September 03, 2019, 09:29:34 PM
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on your mistakes. You, Member, and Myself must have gathered our bees at about the same time. I got my first hive either March or April 2018. Again thanks for sharing.

PS I consider you blessed to live so close to Mr Van! That is a beautiful area. My family use to go boating and camping there on Norfork when I was young, along with Bull Shoals, Ouachita, Heber Springs, and others. Arkansas is a beautiful State. And you live in a beautiful part of it.

Phillip   
Title: Re: My First year, Rookie Mistakes!
Post by: Nock on September 03, 2019, 11:01:15 PM
I found out that just because they are packing pollen doesn?t mean they are getting nectar. That set me back a couple weeks. I should?ve feed longer this spring than I did as well. Hopefully both hives will make it through winter and I can split next spring.
Title: Re: My First year, Rookie Mistakes!
Post by: Ben Framed on September 03, 2019, 11:34:11 PM
I found out when doing queen rearing by the Nicot system, just because you check for queen cells at the right time before placing your grafting bar FULL of the correct age larva, into your starter hive, does not mean that you did not over look at least one QC on the old brood.  A huge mistake!  Ask me how I know.
:wink:
Title: Re: My First year, Rookie Mistakes!
Post by: rockink on September 04, 2019, 02:43:29 PM
Thanks everyone for the replies!

Van, Thank you very much for the offer! Your only about 3 hours from me so that would be totally worth the drive. I have 2 hives that I've got no idea what the genetics are and would love to re-queen them next year.. Unfortunately those 2 hives also are the only ones that produced extra honey.. But none of my hives pass the no-smoke/hand wave test.. (Not that I have tried either..lol)

I have a lot to learn still and want to continue to do so. My winter plan is to get/build/buy an additional 6-8 deeps with frames and 10 medium supers with frames. Curiosity & Honey is why I started beekeeping but honey production is what will sustain my hobby by hopefully selling some to offset the costs..  I thought I could just throw some supers on this last spring and the magic would just happen as I posted above that didn't happen..

Thanks,
Ken
Title: Re: My First year, Rookie Mistakes!
Post by: TheHoneyPump on September 04, 2019, 03:01:49 PM
Bees have been on this planet for a long long time. They do not need us, we need them. We are nothing more than another large persistent pest that they have to adapt to and tolerate.

To -keep- bees the beekeeper needs only do three core things. 
1) Help them be healthy. Monitor for the plethora of pests and diseases of the beehive. Help them manage when those get out of balance. 
2) Place them on good forage sources and access to water. 
3) Give them the right amount of hive space at the right time.
Do those three things well and the bees will be prolific.  They will also promptly fix and overcome every mistake you have ever made soon as you put the lid on and walk away from the hive. Many of those mistakes you will not even know you have made.

Focus on those three core things and you will be consistently successful.  You do not need to know alot nor bee an expert over and above those basics.  The bees take care of themselves.
Title: Re: My First year, Rookie Mistakes!
Post by: van from Arkansas on September 04, 2019, 04:22:05 PM
HP, you left off #4??? For the hobbyist.

#4. Breed for the best queens on the planet.
Title: Re: My First year, Rookie Mistakes!
Post by: rockink on September 09, 2019, 10:35:02 PM
Update.. So I peeked at my oil trays in the bottom of my freeman boards and they were loaded with dead SHB. I think I avoided a potential for them absconding.. I guess they still could but hopefully they are in check for now. Next year I will do better for my little ladies..

Thanks,
Ken