My first cone assembly.
I stuffed insulation along the crack until the Coneboard blocks their main/only entrance
There is no inside the shed access. I put this up 2 days ago. I checked it yesterday and there wasn?t any activity due to sub 50 temperatures. Today 10am there is normal activity again. I cannot see them going back in the cone or point of entry. Will they adapt to the new entrance? What do I do then?
Can anyone see a weak point or poor execution?
Thanks
https://youtu.be/3BWWuK7WfmM
Salty, I have never conducted a trap out. But what little knowledge I know is: I thought the nuc entrance was supposed to be close, right next to the cone entrance, side by side. In other words, the nuc, trap box, entrance is close as possible to the original entrance. The point being the bees will enter the nuc as is now the only available entrance due to the cone blocking the original entrance.
Like I said, I have never done before so consider.
Salty - I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos. I've never tried a "trap out", but now I want too. Hope it works for you!
Mr. Cool, agreed, Salty post good videos as well as Father Michael.
Blessings
Very interesting. So the bees are under the house and you are removing them through a cone entrance (like a yellow jacket soda bottle trap) and hope to entice them into the Nuc. I assume you baited the nuc. Wow. Keep up this thread, Salty. I want to know how this goes.
Salty,
I have completed a lot of Trapouts. As Van said, the idea is to have the Nuc as close to the original entrance as possible.
You are trying to coax the returning bees to the Nuc, not the bees exiting the cone. With it next to the tip of the comb or worse yet, touching it, they may find their way back in. Keep a close eye out all the way around the building. They may dig their way out or in.
I had bees crawling back in a 1/8? crack between cinder blocks. I have also had field bees feed nurse bees through number 8 wire cloth.
If the bees are well established and strong, expect this to last 3 weeks or more.
Good luck.
Jim Altmiller
Jim - heres a question: do you ever get the queen in a trapout?
Quote from: CoolBees on January 23, 2020, 09:05:57 PM
Jim - heres a question: do you ever get the queen in a trapout?
Yes, the last three times that I did it I did catch the queens.
Jim Altmiller
Quote from: sawdstmakr on January 23, 2020, 09:07:22 PM
Quote from: CoolBees on January 23, 2020, 09:05:57 PM
Jim - heres a question: do you ever get the queen in a trapout?
Yes, the last three times that I did it I did catch the queens.
Jim Altmiller
Thats pretty cool. I didn't know that could be done without a "tear-apart" to get her. Thanks for clarifying that.
A cutout I did today - I was covered with bees -
https://youtu.be/4jECjJ7eDuY
Totally cool, that?s looks like fun. Did ya find the queen? Da ya get the bees settled into a box? Thanks again for the video Salty.
Blessings
Salty, I developed the best, most used trapout method there is. Read all 5 links and watch the video.
Sawdstmaker was half right. :cool: :cheesy: Expect it to take a minimum of 6 weeks, up to 12 weeks. In southern Florida, SHB may destroy the original hive before the trap is complete, but you should still get a nuc for yourself.
Click the link.
https://beemaster.com/forum/index.php?topic=20301.0
Quote from: sawdstmakr on January 23, 2020, 09:07:22 PM
Quote from: CoolBees on January 23, 2020, 09:05:57 PM
Jim - heres a question: do you ever get the queen in a trapout?
Yes, the last three times that I did it I did catch the queens.
Jim Altmiller
By the way Jim, Thankyou for the response. The fella that has trapout videos makes it look too easy. He seems to be done in a day.
Quote from: van from Arkansas on January 23, 2020, 11:05:38 PM
Totally cool, that?s looks like fun. Did ya find the queen? Da ya get the bees settled into a box? Thanks again for the video Salty.
Blessings
Yes and she?s got a very yellow body! Thankyou
There were several clusters forming as the comb was falling off these boards so I found her in one of those. They are in a nuc to be added to my failing hive
Quote from: iddee on January 24, 2020, 12:00:34 AM
Salty, I developed the best, most used trapout method there is. Read all 5 links and watch the video.
Sawdstmaker was half right. :cool: :cheesy: Expect it to take a minimum of 6 weeks, up to 12 weeks. In southern Florida, SHB may destroy the original hive before the trap is complete, but you should still get a nuc for yourself.
Click the link.
https://beemaster.com/forum/index.php?topic=20301.0
Question- can I go add a brood frame days after trap is set? I didn?t have any when I first set up trap.
2 Q- how long does a brood frame stay viable once you remove it from an existing hive. Like in transit to the trapout?
Yes, you can still add an ""EGG"" frame. Eggs will stay viable out of the hive much longer than larva. Larva and pupa should be safe for an hour or more in 75 plus degree weather. You can also leave the bees on the frame if you have a way to contain them during transport. They will not fight with the incoming bees.
ID: You can also leave the bees on the frame if you have a way to contain them during transport. They will not fight with the incoming bees.
Please state your opinions:
I can combine frames of bees from different hives without fighting as long as all frames are placed in a new hive empty body, usually a nuc. The queen with her brood is also placed into the new box along with frames from other hives. Your opinion/experience is sought.
My opinion only. No base for fact. Combine from 2 hives, have a fight. Combine from 3 or more hives into one, no fighting. Again, opinion only.
Placing a frame of eggs into a trap with house bees attached is a different ball game totally. The returning foragers will be welcomed by the house bees.
Thankyou
Quote from: sawdstmakr on January 23, 2020, 09:07:22 PM
Quote from: CoolBees on January 23, 2020, 09:05:57 PM
Jim - heres a question: do you ever get the queen in a trapout?
Yes, the last three times that I did it I did catch the queens.
Jim Altmiller
What happens?
Does the queen abscond from the original hive with the dwindling population of bees into the new box?
Yes, when food and brood are gone, she leaves with the last remaining bees. Most times, she heads for parts unknown. Sometimes she lands nearby, sometimes she goes in the trap if there's not already a laying queen in it.
Quote from: iddee on January 25, 2020, 02:06:40 PM
Yes, when food and brood are gone, she leaves with the last remaining bees. Most times, she heads for parts unknown. Sometimes she lands nearby, sometimes she goes in the trap if there's not already a laying queen in it.
Wouldn't it be almost impossible to have a laying queen without beekeeper intervention? Where would the queen cells be developed from?
If a queen was placed in the trap, would it be in a cage for a few days like any other introduction or put in without the cage?
incognito, read replies 11 and 15.