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Title: need advice on moving a new queen & swarm
Post by: Bob Wilson on March 12, 2020, 02:55:30 PM
Here is the timeline.
MARCH 1- Found swarm cells in my only colony.
I evenly split resources/queencells between hive A (original hive) and hive B.
Queen must have remained in hive A, because all the foragers went back to hive A
MARCH 8- Hive A swarmed anyway.
MARCH 9- Hive A began robbing hive B. I reduced hive B entrance.
MARCH 11- The swarm from hive A moved into my swarm box C. (appx. 10 deep frame size)

What I would like to do is...
MARCH 13- Tranfer the colony in hive B into a spare deep box for a friend. (Is the new queen mated yet?)
Leave the deep box on the empty hive B box to help them reorient themselves.
MARCH 14- Take this colony to my friend's house 15 miles away.
MARCH 14- (on the same day) Move the occupied swarm box C to sit on top of the newly empty Hive B. Give them time to reorient.
MARCH 18- Transfer the swarm box C colony into the empty hive B.

Will this work?


Title: Re: need advice on moving a new queen & swarm
Post by: Bob Wilson on March 12, 2020, 03:52:10 PM
Hive B is still being robbed by hive A, I believe. I have a reducer made out of a bit of window screen, allowing only 1 bee in/out. My wife just sent me this picture. I assume it is hive A bees sniffing out the troubled hive B entrance.
Title: Re: need advice on moving a new queen & swarm
Post by: van from Arkansas on March 12, 2020, 09:17:46 PM
Mr. Bob.  In the future, move both splits to new location.

I deal with robbing a lil different than most.  After sundown,I move all frames of the hive being robbed into a new hive body to a new location.  I place empty frames in the hive body that was being robbed.  My goal is to make the robbers think the bees absconded.  Works for me very well.

If you just move the robbed hive, the robbers will find it and they are relentless, unless you move miles away.
Title: Re: need advice on moving a new queen & swarm
Post by: jtcmedic on March 12, 2020, 10:10:35 PM
Mr bob here is a calendar( plus or minus a couple days)
https://thebeeyard.org/cgi-bin/queencalendar2019.pl?date=2020-02-25
I use it often here is the link for regular calander. https://thebeeyard.org/queen-rearing-calendar/
It is a guess on your info you provided I hope it helps. It says 3/26 to check for eggs.
Good luck
Title: Re: need advice on moving a new queen & swarm
Post by: MikeyN.C. on March 12, 2020, 10:37:18 PM
Why would u get rid of original Q. Is she that old or are u betting on what u have now?
Title: Re: need advice on moving a new queen & swarm
Post by: Bob Wilson on March 13, 2020, 12:35:13 AM
Original queen swarmed out of hive A and moved into the swarm box C. She has a large bunch of bees with her.
Thanks for the advice all.