I have seen a good hand full of different videos on hive lifts. These lifts are similar to a freight dolly. Two wheels, hand balanced. some have a hand crank similar to a winch of a small boat trailer while others are more sophisticated affording an electric motorized winch type set up. Do any of you use anything similar to what I just tried to describe?
Thanks,
Phillip
I thought long and hard about making one but when push come to shove for me I didn't need it. The problem is in order for these devices to be stable you need enough room to work and stable level ground. I had the room but not level stable ground. I can't say it enough. Choosing to use nothing but 8 frame mediums has made beekeeping possible for my back and just about eliminates the need for hive lifts.
thinking about this also. So far the son has elected to stay here in community college and at 21 he still works for candy bars. I need to move 5 doubles and just supered them up. A friend of mine made a little lift for scrounging boulders.
Yes Sir, Ace, my ground is not level. I know what your saying. All we need is a BobCat on track, only $35k so we can move a beehive. However if I paid $35,000 for a BobCat skidster for honeybees, my wife would use it to dig my grave. As beautiful as my wife is, a skidster might be pushing things a bit. Although I had a BobCat skidster for the horses, however the wife loved her horses, not so much honeybees,,,, so my back is blown. I?ll spare ya the details.
Health to your bees,
Van
I have been thinking of making one with my recent injury.
I use the Kubota fork lift to move large complete hives a long distance but for short distances I break the hive apart to move it. I believe Michael Bush has that on his web site or said same on one of the bee forums.
If you break it apart just put it back together the same as you started. I have done this many time without any problems. Try to know where the queen is and take care to gently move her box.
Quote from: jtcmedic on March 23, 2020, 10:56:45 PM
I have been thinking of making one with my recent injury.
Same here. I was injured a few years ago pretty severely. Though I am ok now. It is still better to take good care of my back for the future I am thinking. Therefore I bought a small winch past weekend just for this purpose. I do not think terrain will be a problem for me if I build this accordingly. I certainly do not want to struggle at an older age, or any age for that matter, if I can buy or build something that will be of great aid=value. Some of the videos that I have watched look very promising!
Phillip
> I use the Kubota fork lift to move large complete hives a long distance but for short distances I break the hive apart to
move it.
This is part of the beauty of the hand truck type hive lifts. You can use it stationary, breaking stacks where needed to add QE, Extra Brood box, etc without lifting the boxes on top by hand and back. Then simply lower the stack back in place. When desired when done. I'm sure that it will not be appealing to everyone. It does have my attention for sure.
Phillip
We run an Ezy-Loader and trailer that carries 50 full depth doubles . you can Google it but I will try to put up a photo.
Ours has a 4.4meter boom and is self levelling, so terrain is not an issue.
Arsy on the back and easy on the bees.
ADMIN NOTE: If you click on thumbnail picture will display correctly. I have no idea why this is.
Quote from: Ben Framed on March 23, 2020, 11:41:56 PM
You can use it stationary, breaking stacks where needed to add QE,
Well if that is what you want to do I did make a lift for inserting a bee escape.
Quote from: Acebird on March 24, 2020, 09:03:17 AM
Quote from: Ben Framed on March 23, 2020, 11:41:56 PM
You can use it stationary, breaking stacks where needed to add QE,
Well if that is what you want to do I did make a lift for inserting a bee escape.
That sounds good Ace. You have my attention. With the type I am talking about you can also move the whole hive if it is not too tall. Is your design similar, (with wheels)? Some of us have discussed the hive lift design here before and I posted a video here at beemaster featuring the use of one type of bee lift. Some here concluded the wheels would need to be big enough to make this an easier transportation transition across rough terrain for those who have rough ground. I am going to see what I can come up with. Not only for myself but I am thinking of Mr Van, and any other beekeeper who may have back problems, along with those of us who may want to avoid back problems. I am thinking "wouldn't it be nice to handle ten frame deep, full of honey with ease!"
Phillip
No Phill it is meant to just raise a stack of boxes high enough to slip a bee escape in.
https://youtu.be/nHDfDgHWCEo
Nice Ace!!! Thanks for sharing.
Phillip
I used to do the sweep up at a Tractor Trailer repair, and the lot was mostly asphalt covered with dirt. Getting the cart through all the dry, constantly stirred, and otherwise soft earth, with the tiny caster wheels I had on that thing made me think a lot about how to move my tools where I needed it to be.
You would want to use large round wheels, with a wide footprint, like a fat tire bike. Otherwise, I can't imagine this would be that difficult to get bicycle parts, and build one with a crank, and a few pieces of iron pipe. A bicycle chain has a lot more stress placed on it than lifting a few hive bodies. If I get old enough (60) to need one, I'll probably think harder.
This is one example that is already on the market. I have seen videos of older designs that use a hand winch such as used on a trailer to boat set up. This one looks like a back saver to me.
Phillip
https://youtu.be/DiaLdcS5SNw
Yep, I've seen them, but I don't currently have a use for them. I've shown the video examples with a hand crank on forums, and people just start adding drill motors, batteries, and so on. Until I get one in my hands and use it for a while, I wouldn't know what I would want in a design.
Here is a link for an Ezy Loader on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFgrKALVT-8
It will give you the idea
Oldbeavo Your lift is perfect for the larger beekeepers. I do not know of a better one. Thank you for posting.There are many beekeepers here that only have a few hives in their backyard or similar areas. I have read repeatedly of folks with bad backs having to reduce down to medium frames because of weight. I am thinking even a full medium will be pretty heavy. This type beekeeper is what I am leaning toward and thinking of. The following is the oldest video that I have been able to find. (twelve years old). Let me add, until recently, I had not found many videos on this subject, looking again last night there are many videos with different styles from homemade to commercially produced hive lifts. I do not know if the following is commercially produced, but I basically like what I see. Check it out keeping the type beekeeper that I have described in mind.
PS the drill method will work as shown but how long will the battery hold up? I think this would be changed. lol
Phillip
https://youtu.be/_Leli7MjaaU
Phill I like the single wheel design and the hand crank and chain on this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7o5rlNoyOw&feature=emb_rel_end
I like that one too ace. Really nice. The chain drive should be an advantage as making a smooth, strong, lifting and lowering experience.
Phillip
I am thinking one of the most important features that a hand operated hive lift should have is balance. The load must be easily balanced weather heavily or lightly loaded. Otherwise we defeat the purpose of an easy smooth operation.
Phillip
Here is one I am planning on to copy https://zoohoz.ru/pchelovodstvo/uli/kak-sdelat-apilift-12476/
> Here is one I am planning on to copy https://zoohoz.ru/pchelovodstvo/uli/kak-sdelat-apilift-12476/
Great Post jtcmedic! This might be a good project for Jim at beefeast next year? 👍
Phillip
A good welding project but it looks heavy to me. Personally I think you are better of buying a hand cart out of aluminum that is readily available and modifying it for the lift. The slide could be made out of wood and boat winches are like 15 bucks.
Quote from: Acebird on March 30, 2020, 09:36:56 AM
A good welding project but it looks heavy to me. Personally I think you are better of buying a hand cart out of aluminum that is readily available and modifying it for the lift. The slide could be made out of wood and boat winches are like 15 bucks.
Thank you Ace, I like your thinking on this. Food for thought. I have a hand dolly, some call a truck. We us it for moving heavy objects around here at my home. I have noticed as long as the weight is lower than the top handle it seems to be easy to move a very heavy load. The balance point is the key. Once I place weight above the handle or balancing point of the dolly, it seems to throw everything off balance and becomes more of a struggle to handle. One of the manual lifts seems to have taken this into consideration, Placing a two handled hand hold away form the main rail itself, this seems to enable the fellow using it, (and an older gentleman may I add), to move hives with ease and balance in its use. I am thinking it was one of the first videos that I posted here. If this theory is correct, this is a BIG advantage. Allowing the hive to be moved in a more of an upright natural position with much more ease than some models can afford?
Phillip
Well it is a toss up Ben. The closer the wheel axle is to the hive the easier it is to pull the weight to the balance point (Picking the boxes off the hive). The farther the wheel axle is away from the hive the easier it is to keep it balanced once you get it there. You should notice that the frame supporting the sled is tipped back on a lot of these designs. That allows you to lift the hive with the crank/winch. Then you have to move it in order to lower the boxes. I don't know how many appliances you have moved with a hand truck but it is not easy until you tip the truck back. Some appliance trucks have another set of wheels that swing out from the frame so the appliance is supported by 4 wheels and you can actually let go of the truck.
For a turf application you want BIG WHEELS. The bigger the better. This will make it easier for moving and balance.
https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/material-handling/hand-trucks-dollies/hand-trucks-appliance-stair-climbing/4-wheel-professional-appliance-hand-truck-1200-lb-capacity?infoParam.campaignId=T9F&gclid=Cj0KCQjwsYb0BRCOARIsAHbLPhF59Zizvulzs6JjqkXLt5tWO1NLu71B2ENx7HAg3-TAXR-MWi85bvcaArSIEALw_wcB
This looks like something I would start with.
https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-1362/Hand-Trucks/Uline-Standard-Aluminum-Hand-Truck-with-Pneumatic-Wheels?pricode=WA9170&gadtype=pla&id=H-1362&gclid=Cj0KCQjwsYb0BRCOARIsAHbLPhGrUlnHTxpCe4q2vnEi2OPEiqkE10qRG4QGtCrYnY_rwXmGXU0F3bYaAm7_EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
The wheels look like they could slide up the extruded aluminum so the truck would tip back. Then just make a wooden sled and mount a boat winch. Have a couple of arms that lock into the hand holds and your done.
Oh I forgot to mention, anything like this that you use will take a lot longer to do the job so the hive is open longer.
Ace I like the idea of the back set of retractable wheels that is shown on the Global Industries lift. This would be good in case we would need to temporarily stop transportation for any number of reasons as well as safety in assurance of a top heavy load getting out of hand . Yes you are right. I see it as you, the bigger the tires the better.
Phillip
>(jtcmedic) Here is one I am planning on to copy https://zoohoz.ru/pchelovodstvo/uli/kak-sdelat-apilift-12476/
jtcmedic, someone mentioned that this design may be too heavy. After giving it much thought, I do not think it will be to heavy. I like what you have found. After watching MANY videos, I am leaning hard on the (basics) of this one.
> (Ace) Oh I forgot to mention, anything like this that you use will take a lot longer to do the job so the hive is open longer.
You may be right, but I don't think so this time, though I reserve the right to change my mind lol. Especially when collecting several boxes of full heavy honey. I have got to try and see. I do not want to ruin my back over honey as Don the Fat Beeman did. His warning may be good to heed.
Phillip
Phillip
I may be looking at the harbor freight dolly and modify this
After things settle down.
https://www.harborfreight.com/3-In-1-Convertible-Hand-Truck-56409.html(https://shop.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/5/6/56409_W3.jpg)
jtcmedic I like it. Looking at the description, it is mostly alumunium! Good find...
If we had a rolling portable lift along with a setup like Ace built, that combo should pretty well cure any back disadvantages along with (some) types of disabilities for our friends who have such, when it comes to hive lifting?
Phillip
Quote from: Ben Framed on April 01, 2020, 10:26:41 PM
jtcmedic I like it. Looking at the description, it is mostly alumunium! Good find...
If we had a rolling portable lift along with a setup like Ace built, that combo should pretty well cure any back disadvantages along with (some) types of disabilities for our friends who have such, when it comes to hive lifting?
Phillip Hall
It also helps that I have a brother in law that is a mad scientist in the garage. He is a plant mechanic for a large warehouse and a whiz at most things mechanical. So pretty lucky. He laughed and said heck Yah I can build it, your bringing the beer right.
Quote from: Ben Framed on April 01, 2020, 12:17:53 PM
Especially when collecting several boxes of full heavy honey.
The best and most economical solution is to hire a young buck that won't freak out over bees. Next best is 8 frame mediums, without a doubt.
The biggest problem for me was how to get the bees out without using chemical fume boards. Which is why I made the box jack to slip in the escape board.
I am concerned that this method might not work as well down here as it did in the north country. If all else fails there is always the method of picking frames one at a time or at lease half the number of frames (4 for me), very doable. I think you will find that is as quick as a hive lift.
I decided to bump this. There are some folks coming in their golden season of beekeeping that might be interested in some of these ideas.
This simple design was made from a dolly from Harbor Freight.
https://youtu.be/y8caZ0QQ13U
I haul on a trailer and lift off a a home made/harbor freight pole boom attached to my hitch.I know this may sound weird but every time I try to post a pic it exceeds the size allowed. Maybe just a Biden moment IDK. :angry:
Quote from: Bill Murray on March 22, 2021, 05:51:56 PM
I haul on a trailer and lift off a a home made/harbor freight pole boom attached to my hitch.I know this may sound weird but every time I try to post a pic it exceeds the size allowed. Maybe just a Biden moment IDK. :angry:
Its not your fault. Before a picture can be posted here, it needs to be resized. I use to use ReSIZER but lately that hasn't worked for me.
I hope you can get it figured out. I would like to see your set up.
The last video looks good except he might want to add more length to the base for more stability and security as the weight is lifted? Just food for thought.
This is a simple lift which would be good for moving a stack. It is not designed for separating boxes, however it would still be very handy for the application in which Bruce shows here.
https://youtu.be/mEKxzu7fhl0
Quote from: Oldbeavo on March 24, 2020, 06:53:27 AM
I give up, save it and rotate it yourself
Maybe it is the down under view for the US.
LoL! Lovit! Hahhaaa
The problem with many of the lifts you folks are discussing is they are tipNdolly style. Last I checked, boxes of bees with loose movable frames in them do not do well when tipped. Bees and queens get squashed, syrup feeders spill out, honey frames shift bursting cappings and leak honey, all the frames have to be reset after, etc etc etc. A hive is not an appliance nor piece of furniture.
To be a HIVE lift it must pick a hive straight vertical and keep the boxes level for the lift and the entirety of the move. That means a forklift style or a sky hook/boom style.
Turn your eyes away from the tipNdollys. Look for a better tool for the job.
If you just want to move -empty- boxes around then maybe a dolly or a yard cart can work, but I certainly wouldnt be putting much money to it nor allow it anywhere near a hive.
Quote from: TheHoneyPump on March 23, 2021, 03:35:33 AM
Last I checked, boxes of bees with loose movable frames in them do not do well when tipped. Bees and queens get squashed, syrup feeders spill out, honey frames shift bursting cappings and leak honey, all the frames have to be reset after, etc etc etc.
Most active hives do not have loose frames. Actually it is the stuck boxes that pose a problem. I certainly would not use one if the hive had a feeder.
Mr Hp I agree the less tip the better. We tip our hive boxes completely on there sides when checking for swarm cells. 90 degrees as shown by Ian Steppler. Of course they are not being moved around and bumbleing along, but there again, in fairness to (some) of these lift designs, they are not being transported vertically as might have been seen in one of the design videos above.
Actually some of these designs are only tipped at 30 degrees . Some even less. We should be just fine? Less the feeders. Plus remember, when rotating brood boxes, adding queen excluders, adding boards for separation of bees from honey supers, complete inspections, these lifts hold the raised boxes pretty much level. A real back saver?
For removing honey boxes for loading and extraction this will make the job a breeze and should not be any question of a problem. Especially our back! lol
Taking into consideration these lifts are designed for the hobbyist, and small commercial, namely ones with bad backs in particular who wish to continue enjoying bee keeping, (and not large enough to justify investing in an easy loader), hopefully many more years when nature says it times to quit. These have to be much help giving the beekeeper a new refreshing out look on beekeeping? Just food for thought.
Mr Honey Pump, this is a video from a fellow from Russia who has an attachment that picks a box up level by cable overhead. This lift also has the ability to transport the hive the traditional slightly tilted way of small lifts as we have seen in other videos. If this could be modified to move an entire hive upright as done by the ez loader instead of just picking up one box., it might have potential for the best of both, (moving a hive completelpely upright) and portable for the small operator? I am going to give this some thought. Note the motorcycle tires, big, and should make for a smooth ride even across rough ground or unleveled ground, and easier to up ramp and off ramp in a trailer situation.
https://youtu.be/pOAF9QB9Xh0
I have one of the lifts from Boris in Canada, love it use it all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQKpplSwS3A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQKpplSwS3A)
Quote from: Brian MCquilkin on March 23, 2021, 05:14:36 PM
I have one of the lifts from Boris in Canada, love it use it all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQKpplSwS3A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQKpplSwS3A)
That is awesome! You are the first person that I have talk to who is actually purchased one. I can see from the video there are many things to like about the Boris lift. Would you be kind enough to share what you do not like about it, or perhaps what you think could improve it?
Quote from: Ben Framed on March 23, 2021, 05:18:05 PM
Quote from: Brian MCquilkin on March 23, 2021, 05:14:36 PM
I have one of the lifts from Boris in Canada, love it use it all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQKpplSwS3A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQKpplSwS3A)
That is awesome! You are the first person that I have talk to who is actually purchased one. I can see from the video there are many things to like about the Boris lift. Would you be kind enough to share what you do not like about it, or perhaps what you think could improve it?
There is not much I don't like, overall I am pleased with my purchase this will be my 3rd season with it.
I would like to add a stabilizer to hook to the top of the hive to stop the hive rocking when you are first lifting it. Right now I hold the top with one hand to prevent the rocking. I would like both hands to operate the hive lifter. I would like to secure the carriage from moving during transport, right now I use a bungee cord. Here is a video of me using it last fall moving and set up in a new yard they were some heavy hives saved my back and a lot of time with the lifter.
It would be nice to have a motor to drive the wheels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_OhJ2sMC9A
I also set it up as a scale to weigh the colonies in the fall for winter weight. This video is not complete but you get the idea, it worked really well.
Hes the link to scale on the hive lifter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejP6B9GKAFM
Mr MCquilkin I can not express to you how much I appreciate your feedback. I am glad you are happy with your purchase of the Boris lift. I can only hope to take your suggestions and incorporate these with ideas I have and come up with a lift that will be the closest to perfect lift, for myself and my friends here. It is not so much my wish to profit but to help them, these many folks who have helped me here at beemaster which might be getting close to the age and physical time of decline where such an important tool can roll back the years as far as handling our bee hives are concerned. You are now an important link in that equation and I thank you sir for your input. Sincerely Phillip (Ben Framed) wish me luck! Lol
> It would be nice to have a motor to drive the wheels.
Mr.MCquilkin
Here is a regular dolly with a drive made to fit. Perhaps you can do this to yours?
https://youtu.be/Rz0sjYLvxo0
Brian,
Nice setup. Com the looks of those hive racks, you were planning on getting a lot more hives. How many do you have now.
I like the way you added the scale to the lifter. If you weigh them each time you add a super, you could then know how much honey they have added.
Jim Altmiller
Quote from: Brian MCquilkin on March 23, 2021, 09:23:01 PM
right now I use a bungee cord.
Expand on that idea. Use a toggle clamp with nylon strapping. The hive boxes are all the same size so the length of the strap could be fixed.
Quote from: sawdstmakr on March 24, 2021, 08:06:53 AM
Brian,
Nice setup. Com the looks of those hive racks, you were planning on getting a lot more hives. How many do you have now.
I like the way you added the scale to the lifter. If you weigh them each time you add a super, you could then know how much honey they have added.
Jim Altmiller
Thanks for the comment Jim, My intention is to be running about 120 hives hopefully coming out of winter with 36. All colonies will be in stationary yards
Have ordered 10 overwintered nucs and will have 26 Carniolan queens 4 weeks after the nucs arrive. I plan to become the mad splitter this year.
In addition to the hive lifter, I added a little winch Crain to the mix works well for me. If I was running pollination or moving the bees around a lot then I would look at different options.
Quote from: Acebird on March 24, 2021, 08:20:32 AM
Quote from: Brian MCquilkin on March 23, 2021, 09:23:01 PM
right now I use a bungee cord.
Expand on that idea. Use a toggle clamp with nylon strapping. The hive boxes are all the same size so the length of the strap could be fixed.
Thanks Ace
Quote from: Ben Framed on March 24, 2021, 02:04:41 AM
> It would be nice to have a motor to drive the wheels.
Mr.MCquilkin
Here is a regular dolly with a drive made to fit. Perhaps you can do this to yours?
https://youtu.be/Rz0sjYLvxo0
Looks like a great idea thanks
Quote from: Ben Framed on March 24, 2021, 02:04:41 AM
Mr.MCquilkin
Here is a regular dolly with a drive made to fit. Perhaps you can do this to yours?
https://youtu.be/Rz0sjYLvxo0
Try to gear it down so you don't need that big a sprocket eating up ground clearance.
That?s right. I noticed he had a reduction gear on his motor, probably needs just a little more reduction than what he used.
Quote from: van from Arkansas on March 23, 2020, 06:47:40 PM
Yes Sir, Ace, my ground is not level. I know what your saying. All we need is a BobCat on track, only $35k so we can move a beehive. However if I paid $35,000 for a BobCat skidster for honeybees, my wife would use it to dig my grave. As beautiful as my wife is, a skidster might be pushing things a bit. Although I had a BobCat skidster for the horses, however the wife loved her horses, not so much honeybees,,,, so my back is blown. I?ll spare ya the details.
Health to your bees,
Van
That's 35K for the skidsteer and another 5K for a new pony for SHMBO
I have found another one that I really like!! Check this out.
https://youtu.be/Tz3m3I2OZIY
Slow if you are running a business. Great if you are a hobbyist.
Quote from: Acebird on July 31, 2021, 08:36:16 AM
Slow if you are running a business. Great if you are a hobbyist.
Now Brian whether you are running a (small) business or you are a hobbyist, loading 10 hives in >about 10 minutes< does not seem that slow to me. lol
You must load hives like the road runner, with the coyote in hot 🥵 pursuit!! For the small operator on a limited budget, is there a faster, easier, or better way to load 10 hives on a pickup truck, by hand or any other way in 10 minutes; Alone? 😊😊😊
Quote from: van from Arkansas on March 23, 2020, 06:47:40 PM
Yes Sir, Ace, my ground is not level. I know what your saying. All we need is a BobCat on track, only $35k so we can move a beehive. However if I paid $35,000 for a BobCat skidster for honeybees, my wife would use it to dig my grave. As beautiful as my wife is, a skidster might be pushing things a bit. Although I had a BobCat skidster for the horses, however the wife loved her horses, not so much honeybees,,,, so my back is blown. I?ll spare ya the details.
Health to your bees,
Van
Sorry to hear of your back. Bummer! We use a riding mower with a trailer attachment on the back. We hook up a heavy-duty plastic two-wheel trailer to it. Took it up the hill to our upper apiary with me walking along to balance it (I had already strapped it together). I worked super well, I was very pleased! Will she help with that?
Since there has been an interest in hive live lifts on another topic, I decided to refresh this topic.
Phillip
To load - unload your truck of various bee stuff, anything anywhere.
- tommy gate G2, maxxon, or equivalent
https://www.tommygate.com/liftgates/pickup/
To load/unload single or double pallets with a single unit setup. Mount on a trailer or on a deck truck
- articulating picker or boom lift like EZloader or equivalent
https://www.worktruckwest.com/equipment/picker-deck-trucks/
https://ezyloader.com
For multipurpose, total versatility, all terrain, the get a lot of anything done anywhere any day. AT loader; hummerbee, swinger, or equivalent.
https://www.hummerbee.com/xrt-rough-terrain-forklift
https://avantequipment.com.au/mini-loaders/
https://www.bobcat.com/loaders/small-articulated-loaders/features
For backyarder, few hives, permanent hive positions. Overhead gantry lift and a sturdy yard/garden cart.
https://www.wallacecranes.com/products/gantry-cranes/
For wheeling around, fighting terrain and balancing. Hold your tongue just right. Manual pushing-pulling which is not alot better than lifting.
Models B2 / B3 keep the hive reasonably level.
Made around Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Roughly 1800$ Cdn.
https://www.beebreedingcentre.com/shop
https://youtu.be/RgEJWAeELYU
Very Nice Lift. You had mentioned before your concerns of the angle of the boxes while in transit, with some of these portable lifts. This one you posted seems to help reduce angle tremendously over some of the others. Thank you for posting this HoneyPump
Phillip
Quote from: TheHoneyPump on April 21, 2022, 09:40:06 PM
https://youtu.be/RgEJWAeELYU
Richard Noel has a new one!
https://youtube.com/shorts/nAUYMuzQUnc?si=3MtecZ6HX9epJWp1
Brian I noticed you did this on the top box. can you do this on 4 Medium boxes?
Here is another simple idea that might be modified to be an aid in lifting hives for inspection or super removal.
https://youtube.com/shorts/cxBFXFdqDr8?si=RtLVlG1uE93YET4r