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Title: Storage of dead/empty hive
Post by: Leah on June 01, 2006, 06:57:19 PM
My beehive was slow to start this year.  I requeened a few weeks ago, but this didn't seem to help.  Today I went to check the hive and found
1) No bees
2) large Ants - mostly on inner cover where sugar syrup had spilled, but some on the frames.

I would like to seal off and store the empty hive.  Next year I'll start again from a package or nuc.

Is there anything I can use to get rid of the ants?

Also, is it ok to treat the combs with PDB?  Instructions for PDB say not for use on combs containing honey, but does that just mean honey for human comsumption?  These combs have honey, but they are for hive body usage.

Thanks,
Leah
Title: Storage of dead/empty hive
Post by: Michael Bush on June 01, 2006, 08:19:25 PM
>My beehive was slow to start this year. I requeened a few weeks ago, but this didn't seem to help. Today I went to check the hive and found
1) No bees
2) large Ants - mostly on inner cover where sugar syrup had spilled, but some on the frames.

Sounds like the ants drove them out.  Probably drawn by the sugar syrup.

>Is there anything I can use to get rid of the ants?

Do a search on ants.  There have been hundreds of discussions.

>Also, is it ok to treat the combs with PDB? Instructions for PDB say not for use on combs containing honey, but does that just mean honey for human comsumption?

PDB will kill bees.  If it gets into the honey the honey will kill bees.  I wouldn't (and never do) use it at all, but if you do use it, follow the directions.  They are not just the law, they are a good idea.
Title: Storage of dead/empty hive
Post by: Brian D. Bray on June 01, 2006, 10:51:26 PM
Dead Ant Solution (Not be be confused with Dadant)

Place hive in the center of a smaller commercial grade cookie sheet (approx 18 by 24), fill sheet with 1/8 inch vegatable oil.  Ants drown while trying to swim across to raid hive, yet you still have room to work it.
Title: Storage of dead/empty hive
Post by: Leah on June 02, 2006, 07:42:07 PM
Thank you Michael & Brian for the info.
Title: Storage of dead/empty hive
Post by: Apis629 on June 03, 2006, 12:11:58 PM
Libraly sprinkle cinemon on the frames, combs, boxes...EVERYWHERE.  The ants can't stand it an run away while, the bees show no reaction at all.
Title: Storage of dead/empty hive
Post by: Brian D. Bray on June 03, 2006, 02:51:19 PM
Cinnamon does not always work.  The oil moat does.