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Title: Good sign?
Post by: Nock on April 16, 2020, 10:54:26 AM
Checked a trap this morning on way to work. There were several scouts in the box. Bad part was they were all dead. Not sure if yesterday or this morning got them. Both days been below freezing. So is it a good sign they were hanging out?  Why would they not go back to there hive?  Is it normal for them to do this until the rest move in?  Thanks
Title: Re: Good sign?
Post by: van from Arkansas on April 16, 2020, 01:00:32 PM
Nock, I see bees at the end of life that leave the hive to die in solidarity.  I believe these bees realize they at at the end of the road.  Specifically, I see the bees grasp onto my screen of my front porch.  They just latch on the screen, don?t move and die in place.  Better than dying in the hive inwhich a caretaker would have to carry off the dead bee.  The ultimate last sacrifice to the hive.  Gotta adore those honeybees.   Could go on and on of my admirations.

Hope you catch a swarm, Nock!!!

Van
Title: Re: Good sign?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on April 16, 2020, 02:55:17 PM
Nock,
If the bees found the trap close to sundown, they would likely stay for the night. If it was still cold when you looked in the box, there is a good chance they are not dead. Unless their body temperature dropped below freezing they are still alive. I have picked up bees in cold weather that I thought were dead, held them in my hand and have them wake up.
Hope you catch a swarm.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Good sign?
Post by: Nock on April 16, 2020, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: sawdstmakr on April 16, 2020, 02:55:17 PM
Nock,
If the bees found the trap close to sundown, they would likely stay for the night. If it was still cold when you looked in the box, there is a good chance they are not dead. Unless their body temperature dropped below freezing they are still alive. I have picked up bees in cold weather that I thought were dead, held them in my hand and have them wake up.
Hope you catch a swarm.
Jim Altmiller
I?ve been thinking about that today.
Title: Re: Good sign?
Post by: Bob Wilson on April 16, 2020, 11:35:22 PM
Is it possible they were visitors from your other nearby hives? I had what I thought were 10-12 scouts hanging around one swarm box for two weeks, but when I checked the box, no colony and no comb inside. Instead, the stragglers built a little burr comb between a few frames. What's up with that?
Title: Re: Good sign?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on April 17, 2020, 12:35:11 AM
Quote from: Bob Wilson on April 16, 2020, 11:35:22 PM
Is it possible they were visitors from your other nearby hives? I had what I thought were 10-12 scouts hanging around one swarm box for two weeks, but when I checked the box, no colony and no comb inside. Instead, the stragglers built a little burr comb between a few frames. What's up with that?
You probably had a swarm on or near that box and they were left behind. So they just started working in your box.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: Good sign?
Post by: Bob Wilson on April 17, 2020, 08:37:08 AM
interesting, Jim. I just rebaited it, and there is renewed interest again. 12-15 bees all around it. Did you catch a swarm in that box on the fence post behind your hives since beefest?
Title: Re: Good sign?
Post by: Nock on April 17, 2020, 09:32:45 AM
Quote from: Bob Wilson on April 16, 2020, 11:35:22 PM
Is it possible they were visitors from your other nearby hives? I had what I thought were 10-12 scouts hanging around one swarm box for two weeks, but when I checked the box, no colony and no comb inside. Instead, the stragglers built a little burr comb between a few frames. What's up with that?
This trap is about 4 miles from my hives.
Title: Re: Good sign?
Post by: BeeMaster2 on April 17, 2020, 09:39:48 AM
Quote from: Bob Wilson on April 17, 2020, 08:37:08 AM
interesting, Jim. I just rebaited it, and there is renewed interest again. 12-15 bees all around it. Did you catch a swarm in that box on the fence post behind your hives since beefest?
No. Nothing yet.
Jim Altmiller