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Title: gummed up smoker
Post by: brolib on March 09, 2021, 06:06:26 PM
I've been beekeeping about 5 years and following this forum about the same time. I've not seen this topic, but it's frustrating me. My smoker gets creosote-gummed up so badly I can't easily remove the top. I end up hammering and banging the top to the point of changing its shape.  :angry: Am I the only one with this problem. I could clean the smoker after each use with acetone or some other solvent, but there must be an easier way. Enlighten me. My primary fuel is pine needles.
Title: Re: gummed up smoker
Post by: rast on March 09, 2021, 08:59:34 PM
Mine is the same and I use pine needles too.
Title: Re: gummed up smoker
Post by: beesnweeds on March 09, 2021, 09:15:17 PM
I use a bernzomatic torch and light the creosote on fire.  Once the fire goes out use a wire brush or plumbers fitting brush and it comes out easily.
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Post by: jimineycricket on March 09, 2021, 09:59:14 PM
I use just plain water on a rag to clean it off.
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Post by: William Bagwell on March 09, 2021, 10:54:09 PM
Wonder if creosote remover like used in wood stoves would work? Obviously not while around your bees!
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Post by: Bob Wilson on March 10, 2021, 07:55:20 AM
Sawdstmakr (Jim) showed me how to use the torch to simply light the gum on fire. It burns to ash and brushes off.
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Post by: Acebird on March 10, 2021, 08:31:29 AM
You can heat the smoker up with a torch around the lip to soften the creosote.  You can further burn it off once open or clean it off with a stick.
Title: Re: gummed up smoker
Post by: BeeMaster2 on March 10, 2021, 08:51:11 AM
When you use a torch, you need to let it burn long enough to turn the creosote to ash. Bee careful not to over heat the metal with the tip of the torch. Keep it hot enough to let the creosote burn itself to an ash. The tip of the torch is much hotter than the burning creosote.
Jim Altmiller
Title: Re: gummed up smoker
Post by: brolib on March 10, 2021, 10:54:43 AM
The torch did the trick! Burnt to ash and scraped off easily. Thanks, all.
Title: Re: gummed up smoker
Post by: Beeboy01 on March 10, 2021, 11:57:58 AM
Yeah, burn that stuff off with a torch and clean up with a wire brush while still hot. If the lid is stuck I pry it off with a hive tool using the bellows as a fulcrum point.
Title: Re: gummed up smoker
Post by: guitarstitch on March 12, 2021, 10:51:11 AM
Another vote for the torch method here.  It's part of my annual preparations for beekeeping season....  paint the boxes, wax the foundations, render my junk combs, and torch the smoker.
Title: Re: gummed up smoker
Post by: TheHoneyPump on March 12, 2021, 03:07:46 PM
Fill with dry wood sticks, get it hot to breathing fire, red/white coals in the bottom, then set it upright on a fireproof surface and leave it to self chimney for awhile. Or TORCH it. After it cools down, use a hive tool to wack and chip and scrape off what is left. If your goal is to have a nice shiny polished smoker at the end of it ... you might want to reconsider where best to otherwise be focusing your time.

Title: Re: gummed up smoker
Post by: Oldbeavo on March 13, 2021, 04:52:53 AM
If the lid fits and there is a hole for the smoke to come out, all's good.
A shiny smokers makes no difference to the bees.
Title: Re: gummed up smoker
Post by: guitarstitch on March 22, 2021, 04:44:39 PM
Quote from: Oldbeavo on March 13, 2021, 04:52:53 AM
If the lid fits and there is a hole for the smoke to come out, all's good.
A shiny smokers makes no difference to the bees.

However, OP did state "My smoker gets creosote-gummed up so badly I can't easily remove the top."  That's a good indicator that some maintenance is required.   :cool: