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Title: Posion
Post by: Ben Framed on March 13, 2021, 12:24:23 PM
Last year I had three hives severely set back by poison. Come to find out my neighbor poisoned his pear trees at that time during bloom. I feel sure he will do it again this season. What if anything can be done to protect my bees short of moving them?
Title: Re: Posion
Post by: Brian MCquilkin on March 13, 2021, 12:34:28 PM
Quote from: Ben Framed on March 13, 2021, 12:24:23 PM
Last year I had three hives severely set back by poison. Come to find out my neighbor poisoned his pear trees at that time during bloom. I feel sure he will do it again this season. What if anything can be done to protect my bees short of moving them?
Talk to your neighbor and ask them to let you know when they will be spraying, lock your bees in while they spray, or move them out to another yard.
Title: Re: Posion
Post by: Ben Framed on March 13, 2021, 12:43:54 PM
Quote from: Brian MCquilkin on March 13, 2021, 12:34:28 PM
Quote from: Ben Framed on March 13, 2021, 12:24:23 PM
Last year I had three hives severely set back by poison. Come to find out my neighbor poisoned his pear trees at that time during bloom. I feel sure he will do it again this season. What if anything can be done to protect my bees short of moving them?
Talk to your neighbor and ask them to let you know when they will be spraying, lock your bees in while they spray, or move them out to another yard.

Thanks Brian I appreciate your answer. I will ask him about his schedule of spraying. I was hoping to avoid moving them if at all possible. I do not know how long poison is lethal when it is on blooms. How long should I leave them locked up? When I have removed bees from structurer I have found it imperative to make sure they have plenty of ventilation so they won?t over heat on the trip home. I suppose when it comes to fruit tree 🌳 spraying time it might be easy to overheat them?
Title: Re: Posion
Post by: Ben Framed on March 13, 2021, 12:46:01 PM
So back to the question.

Another question, is it necessary to spray blooms for peat prevention or can they be sprayed before or after the bloom with the same success of the intended spray. Hopefully I can reason with him about his schedule if I have a leg to stand on lol.
Adding  Is there a successful spray that can be used successfully before air after the bloom I order to keep from killing bees.
Title: Re: Posion
Post by: The15thMember on March 13, 2021, 01:59:46 PM
The question is what exactly is he spraying on the tree?  If you know the chemical or product he's using, then you can research how it works and when it needs to be sprayed.  Then hopefully he will try to work with you to spray when the tree is not in bloom or at night if possible, and you can perhaps find out how long the product is toxic to the bees. 
Title: Re: Posion
Post by: Ben Framed on March 13, 2021, 02:18:16 PM
Quote from: The15thMember on March 13, 2021, 01:59:46 PM
The question is what exactly is he spraying on the tree?  If you know the chemical or product he's using, then you can research how it works and when it needs to be sprayed.  Then hopefully he will try to work with you to spray when the tree is not in bloom or at night if possible, and you can perhaps find out how long the product is toxic to the bees.

I have no idea. We have nit had the talk yet. I am trying to find out all I can before we talk. The more educated I am the better I should be able to communicate.
Title: Re: Posion
Post by: Ben Framed on March 13, 2021, 03:43:03 PM
So back to the question.

>Another question, is it necessary to spray blooms for peat prevention or can they be sprayed before or after the bloom with the same success of the intended spray. Hopefully I can reason with him about his schedule if I have a leg to stand on lol.


Adding  Is there a successful spray that can be used successfully before air after the bloom in order to keep from killing bees.
Title: Re: Posion
Post by: Bob Wilson on March 13, 2021, 04:08:42 PM
I wonder if he is spraying for fire blight, which has to be done during the blooming time. The blight shows up later in the spring, but infects through the blooms. For people who want supermarket fruit off their home trees, a scheduled maintenance of insecticides and fungicides is the recommendation. Fruit trees are badly suseptible to a wide range of diseases and weaknesses.
Except for the fire blight, he ought to be able to spray before and after the flowering, especially knowing that your bees are good for his polination.
Title: Re: Posion
Post by: Ben Framed on March 13, 2021, 04:14:02 PM
Thanks Bob Good information
Title: Re: Posion
Post by: iddee on March 13, 2021, 04:43:27 PM
Ask him for the name of the chemical and a label, if available. Then search for the MSDS  safety sheet on the product.
Title: Re: Posion
Post by: Ben Framed on March 13, 2021, 04:45:01 PM
Quote from: iddee on March 13, 2021, 04:43:27 PM
Ask him for the name of the chemical and a label, if available. Then search for the MSDS  safety sheet on the product.

Will do. Thanks