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Title: Bad batch of Prosweet?
Post by: Aroc on May 02, 2021, 08:27:29 PM
So last year we had a few hives that really needed some extra boost in the spring.  We purchased a couple 5 gallon buckets of ProSweet from Mann Lake but for some reason every hive we used it in did not touch the stuff.  We made sugar syrup for a couple hives and even did a bit of open feeding and it a big hit. 

Didn?t think much of it at the time.  Thought that maybe the bees simply didn?t need it as I thought.  This year we had a bit of the ProSweet left over so we put some out when it warmed up....same thing.  The bees never touched it. 

I?ve never had a problem with ProSweet before.  Has anyone seen this?  Could there be a bad batch of it out there?
Title: Re: Bad batch of Prosweet?
Post by: Brian MCquilkin on May 02, 2021, 09:59:01 PM
The syrup is often ignored by the bees during a nectar flow. Bees seem to treat open feeding as a nectar source.
Title: Re: Bad batch of Prosweet?
Post by: Aroc on May 03, 2021, 09:10:17 PM
Quote from: Brian MCquilkin on May 02, 2021, 09:59:01 PM
The syrup is often ignored by the bees during a nectar flow. Bees seem to treat open feeding as a nectar source.

Agreed but this year they ignored it as an open feeding as well.  We put sugar syrup out in a different location.  Bees are it up.
Title: Re: Bad batch of Prosweet?
Post by: TheHoneyPump on May 04, 2021, 02:33:51 PM
I do not know anything about Prosweet, but I do know this:

1- bees will ignore feed whenever there is a natural source (foraging) available, even with good quality of the feed.
2- bees will be hesitant and/or will not take feed at all when it is cold (less than 7 degC approx), because they cannot process it properly.
3- bees will take feed when they cannot fly; raining / windy
4- bees will take feed when the landscape is void of forage
5- bees will take feed that to me sometimes looks rather nasty but is good in their opinion. When open fed.
6- bees will ignore feed if they do not have a healthy active queen. Often the surest signal of queenless hive or a virgin queen is the hive that is not taking down feed while all the other hives are.
7- bees will ignore feed if they are sick or overwhelmed by pests / disease / virus

If the bees are not taking the feed when conditions 3 or 4 exist, and none of the other conditions exist; Just dump it out - at that point the beekeeper can be sure the feed is foul. Especially if he/she knows it is old stock.

Why are you buying buckets of some fancy marketing name syrup?  Mix it yourself from ingredients (white cane sugar).  That way you know it is fresh and you know the quality / consistency of the feed.