There are people who disdain plastic bottles for the plastic flavor it gives the honey. They keep their own personal honey in glass jars. However, glass jars have those metal rings which create an unpleasant metallic taste when I wipe the dribbling honey from the jar lid and lick my finger... and it is REQUIRED to lick the finger.
How do you serve your own personal stash of honey to your family?
Quote from: Bob Wilson on December 30, 2021, 10:02:35 AM
There are people who disdain plastic bottles for the plastic flavor it gives the honey. They keep their own personal honey in glass jars. However, glass jars have those metal rings which create an unpleasant metallic taste when I wipe the dribbling honey from the jar lid and lick my finger... and it is REQUIRED to lick the finger.
How do you serve your own personal stash of honey to your family?
We keep all our honey in ball jars, but I have totally done that, where I clean off the lid and lick my finger and all I taste is metal. :oops: Nonetheless, I just don't like honey in plastic. It's not so much a taste thing as a classy thing. My bees and I went to all this work to get this honey, and I just don't want to see all that beautiful honey on the shelf in plastic; it deserves real glass. :happy: Something you can do is get plastic lids that fit ball jars. They usually don't seal as well as the metal lids, so I wouldn't store the honey like that long term, but you could avoid that metally tinge on whatever jar of honey you have out on the counter to use at the moment.
put some plastic wrap between the lid and jar?
HDPE. 3 kilogram pail or 1 kilogram tub on the counter. Taken with a rolling fork.
If there are guests, an amount is put into a fancy glass/crystal bowl with glass dipper that is placed on the table. Whatever is leftover goes back into the pail later.
Bob Wilson
QuoteThere are people who disdain plastic bottles for the plastic flavor it gives the honey.
I have never heard of this Bob...
The15thMember
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Nonetheless, I just don't like honey in plastic. It's not so much a taste thing as a classy thing.
I defiantly relate to that. I use glass also though I have nothing against plastic squeeze bears. No mess and precise hit on the biscuit. lol. I may go back to the plastic squeeze bear bottle 'for my personal use'.
Both plastic and glass do the job for me but if given the choice, glass every time. Glass jars are easier to recycle and use again. Thrown into the dishwasher, they come up well. A new lid every now and again and you have a good, clean container. My customers definitely have a preference for glass but most don?t mind if honey is presented in plastic. The weight, shape possibilities, cost and flexible nature of plastics do give them an advantage. Looks like there are some better alternatives to traditional plastics starting to hit the market now. Hopefully some of them can put some research and effort into storage of honey and it?s other products.
We use a bear for personal use and keep refilling them from pint and quart jars. I also recommend to my customers to do the same. The bears are much neater than dipping honey.
Jim Altmiller
Pretty hard to believe you are tasting metal. The lids, just like the inside of a can is coated with a polymer. If anything you would be tasting the polymer. If the honey came in contact with the metal it would rust. The seal on a ball jar lid is another polymer. Maybe a form of latex.
Ace, I agree, it isn?t until the coating is scratched to get to exposed metal.
Jim Altmiller
You might find this article interesting
https://livinghomegrown.com/changes-in-canning-lid-procedures/
I Have noticed that Walmart sells, (10 pack quanity), one piece quart size plastic lids, similar to those on mayonnaise jars.
Quote from: Acebird on December 31, 2021, 08:40:08 AM
Pretty hard to believe you are tasting metal. The lids, just like the inside of a can is coated with a polymer. If anything you would be tasting the polymer. If the honey came in contact with the metal it would rust. The seal on a ball jar lid is another polymer. Maybe a form of latex.
We really weren't precise enough; we're not talking about the lids, but the rings of the ball jars. Jars do inevitably get honey around the rims and in the rings, and if you swipe your finger in the ring to clean it, and then lick your finger, all you taste is metal. That's what happens to me anyway. As sticky as the jars get, I totally respect those who prefer the squeeze bears or bottles. Some people mind being sticky all the time. :grin:
Quote from: Ben Framed on December 31, 2021, 01:03:00 PM
I Have noticed that Walmart sells, (10 pack quanity), one piece quart size plastic lids, similar to those on mayonnaise jars.
Ben,
Those plastic lids are great until the jar gets tipped on its side. The plastic lids leak. No matter how tight I put them on, they leak. Maybe not every one but enough to make them non trustworthy.
Jim Altmiller
Quote from: Bob Wilson on December 30, 2021, 10:02:35 AM
There are people who disdain plastic bottles for the plastic flavor it gives the honey. They keep their own personal honey in glass jars. However, glass jars have those metal rings which create an unpleasant metallic taste when I wipe the dribbling honey from the jar lid and lick my finger... and it is REQUIRED to lick the finger.
How do you serve your own personal stash of honey to your family?
I actually buy classic honey bottles. To put my honey in... I have not seen any with metal covers in about 15 years... The covers I made out of plastic.. The cover also has an inner seal.. If you tight the cover down one time.. I hope this help you..
I personally have had no leakage on tip overs.
BEE HAPPY Jim134 :smile:
Quote from: BeeMaster2 on January 01, 2022, 08:49:48 AM
Quote from: Ben Framed on December 31, 2021, 01:03:00 PM
I Have noticed that Walmart sells, (10 pack quanity), one piece quart size plastic lids, similar to those on mayonnaise jars.
Ben,
Those plastic lids are great until the jar gets tipped on its side. The plastic lids leak. No matter how tight I put them on, they leak. Maybe not every one but enough to make them non trustworthy.
Jim Altmiller
Thanks for the revelation Jim. In that case I would not want anyone to waste their effort on those. I had not tried them though I had seen them and was considering them.
Phillip
I use the same 1 lb plastic bottles that I sell it in. I keep 3 in rotation and refill them as necessary.
Using a jar with a plastic lid seems to still be exposing the honey to the plastic taste. Might as well use a bear. I suppose with time, my plastic bottle will take on the taste of honey, instead of the other way around.
Quote from: Bob Wilson on January 01, 2022, 11:42:21 AM
Using a jar with a plastic lid seems to still be exposing the honey to the plastic taste. Might as well use a bear. I suppose with time, my plastic bottle will take on the taste of honey, instead of the other way around.
Honestly Bob, I don't know that I have tasted a plastic taste in honey when using a honey bear. What do you store your honey in after extraction 'before bottling'?
We keep our personal-use honey in a restaurant-quality glass syrup jar. Get the best quality one you can find as the thumb-trigger is more sturdy and the slider makes a good seal, keeping humidity out, and cuts off the flow nicely.
Quote from: Acebird on December 31, 2021, 08:40:08 AM
Pretty hard to believe you are tasting metal. The lids, just like the inside of a can is coated with a polymer. If anything you would be tasting the polymer. If the honey came in contact with the metal it would rust. The seal on a ball jar lid is another polymer. Maybe a form of latex.
I believe tasting metal before I believe tasting plastic. Unless you're using Tupperware. Gross, it even flavors dry stuff like cookies.
I can't keep a plastic bear filled around here so I just dish it up in a quart mason jar. With a plastic lid.
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Quote from: JurassicApiary on January 01, 2022, 03:46:08 PM
We keep our personal-use honey in a restaurant-quality glass syrup jar. Get the best quality one you can find as the thumb-trigger is more sturdy and the slider makes a good seal, keeping humidity out, and cuts off the flow nicely.
Jurassic, that's brilliant!! I'm going to get one of those.
Quote from: yes2matt on January 01, 2022, 04:23:01 PM
I believe tasting metal before I believe tasting plastic. Unless you're using Tupperware. Gross, it even flavors dry stuff like cookies.
I can't keep a plastic bear filled around here so I just dish it up in a quart mason jar. With a plastic lid.
How dare you slander the name of Tupperware?! :angry:
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We use a NORPRO honey/syrup dispenser, glass and stainless with a glass dish to set it in, dispenses from the bottom. It does have a silicone washer at the exit point though. I really like it no mess and have never tasted anything off about the honey.