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Title: ALCOHOL/ANTIFREEZE WASH
Post by: salvo on April 13, 2022, 06:54:35 PM
Hi Folks,

2020 and 2021 were odd. Alcohol, if you could find it, was expensive. I had read where in 2020 and 2021 some beeks resorted to an Antifreeze Shake rather than an alcohol wash to dislodge, count and test for Varroa Mites.

I was recently asked about using antifreeze instead of alcohol to dislodge mites. Many people, myself included, have jugs of it on hand, unused.

I supposed it could work, however, the sweetness of the antifreeze may attract the attention of foraging bees.

What precautions might you suggest?

What say you?

Sal

Title: Re: ALCOHOL/ANTIFREEZE WASH
Post by: beesnweeds on April 13, 2022, 09:54:10 PM
I switched to using clear Dawn dish detergent as suggested by Randy Oliver.  1 tablespoon per 1/2 gallon of water.  Just pour the soap into a half gallon jug, dont shake.  It works great.  I wouldn't use antifreeze.  It dislodges the mites better than anything else Ive used and kills the bees instantly.
Title: Re: ALCOHOL/ANTIFREEZE WASH
Post by: Ben Framed on April 13, 2022, 10:41:50 PM
Im in favor of beesnweeds suggestion of Dawn over anti-freeze per the reason you stated Sal. (Assuming Dawn is just as effective in detaching mites from bees as alcohol). Anti-freeze 'seems' a little to much to me. l just don't know that I would be comfortable using it in this application for insects, especially bees that gather for food.. But; That is just my opinion, really I don't know!  lol 
Title: Re: ALCOHOL/ANTIFREEZE WASH
Post by: Acebird on April 14, 2022, 08:14:29 AM
Quote from: salvo on April 13, 2022, 06:54:35 PM

I was recently asked about using antifreeze instead of alcohol to dislodge mites. Many people, myself included, have jugs of it on hand, unused.

It doesn't matter until it comes time to dispose of the antifreeze.  One can only wonder why someone would have jugs of antifreeze on hand.
Title: Re: ALCOHOL/ANTIFREEZE WASH
Post by: beesnweeds on April 14, 2022, 09:17:50 AM
Quote from: Ben Framed on April 13, 2022, 10:41:50 PM
(Assuming Dawn is just as effective in detaching mites from bees as alcohol).

Test results:
https://scientificbeekeeping.com/refining-the-mite-wash-part-4-comparing-the-release-agents/
Title: Re: ALCOHOL/ANTIFREEZE WASH
Post by: salvo on April 14, 2022, 09:51:39 AM
Thanks Beesnweeds.

Sal
Title: Re: ALCOHOL/ANTIFREEZE WASH
Post by: Jim134 on April 17, 2022, 07:07:22 PM
     I have used Automobile window washing fluid. I also have used dishwashing soap... All I can say at work well for me..





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Title: Re: ALCOHOL/ANTIFREEZE WASH
Post by: .30WCF on April 27, 2022, 11:47:17 PM
Anyone tried gas?  Most folks have a gas can for the mower and wouldn?t miss a cup of gas. You could even strain it and put it back in the mower.


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Title: Re: ALCOHOL/ANTIFREEZE WASH
Post by: Michael Bush on May 27, 2022, 10:23:39 AM
All this talk about killing bees has triggered me.  I'm going to go find a safe space to calm down...
Title: Re: ALCOHOL/ANTIFREEZE WASH
Post by: Ben Framed on May 27, 2022, 10:25:53 AM
Quote from: Michael Bush on May 27, 2022, 10:23:39 AM
All this talk about killing bees has triggered me.  I'm going to go find a safe space to calm down...

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