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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. => Topic started by: rayb on June 23, 2006, 10:25:49 AM

Title: Previously treated frames
Post by: rayb on June 23, 2006, 10:25:49 AM
I like the idea of the interchangeability of all medium boxes. Moving frames up or down.

Question. If a chemically treated brood box frame is now moved up to a honey super, is that frame's honey useable or does it have chemical residue?

Question. If it is NOT useable for human consumption, is there a reason to leave it in the supers?

Thanks, Ray
Title: Previously treated frames
Post by: Hi-Tech on June 23, 2006, 10:12:25 PM
That is one of the big reasons why a lot of us use no treatments. My guess is it would not be a good idea to use as a honey super.
Title: Previously treated frames
Post by: Brian D. Bray on June 24, 2006, 02:35:19 AM
Using all mediums (as i do) is a good way to invoke eaze of operations along with versitility--the benifits of uniformity.  As for the honey in boxes that have been treated with chemicals the best bet would be to feed it back to the hive when you are dead certain that it is going for winter stores.  
I don't go for chemicals as treatment, there are natural methods that work well enough for most beekeepers to keep their hives alive.  Eating honey that's been treated with chemicals doesn't appeal to me for the same reason I don't eat d-con for thinning my blood.
Title: Previously treated frames
Post by: rayb on June 24, 2006, 08:27:35 AM
Thankyou for your responses. I'm planning for next year and my winter projects to get ready. I appreciate all the great info as this is my first year and find there is more than one way to go.

Thanks, Ray
Title: Previously treated frames
Post by: Michael Bush on June 24, 2006, 11:20:49 PM
>Question. If a chemically treated brood box frame is now moved up to a honey super, is that frame's honey useable or does it have chemical residue?

In the "chemical use" theory the bees will not move anything across a queen excluder.  This of course is an absurd and totally untrue concept.  If you use chemicals in your hive, the contamination gets moved around be the bees who move, not only honey, but wax anywhere they desire to have it from where ever it currently is.  Yes, if you move a contaminated frame up, it will still be contaminated.  As is all the foundation and the entire world beeswax supply.

>Question. If it is NOT useable for human consumption, is there a reason to leave it in the supers?

Probably not.

That's why I don't use any chemicalsin the hive.  At all.  Ever.