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Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: heidip on July 16, 2006, 04:41:04 PM
I have a question...I'm a new beekeeper this year and I've not been wearing gloves, which IS the way I prefer it..but it seems that at least every other time I'm in my hive I get stung on the fingers or the hands...and I still (after 7 stings since I started in April) swell real good for a couple of days...I did try to wear the gloves 1 time...and it was as expected...the gloves are so clumsy that they got stung about a dozen times...which of course meant aggitated honeybees! So it was an unpleasant inspection...I just wonder if anyone has tried any rubber or neoprene gloves or something that's tighter to the fingers and would offer some better dexterity and sensitivity than those clumsy leather beekeepers gloves (light colored of course)...I'm even wearing xs and they're still just bulky? I would appreciate any ideas or suggestions that you all may have! Many Thanks!

"Happy is he who hath the power to gather wisdom from a flower"
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: Rich V on July 16, 2006, 05:47:59 PM
I don't like using gloves and when I go without I get stung. My fingers swell up for a couple of days. I tryed the latex gloves but that dosen't stop the stings so I went back to the thin leather.

Rich V.
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: shado_knight on July 16, 2006, 06:04:29 PM
I just started in april this year as well. I don't wear gloves, & haven't been stung yet. The only protective equip I wear is a hat & veil. Yesterday I wore shorts & a tank top, cuz it's so hot. I use a smoker, & smoke myself down before going to the hive. I also go in the hive in the early afternoon, when most of the workers are out, & work the hive very slowly, and from the back, so as not to interfere with the workers coming & going. Works for me anyway, though i'm sure the day will come when they will attack! LOL :shock:
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: BMAC on July 16, 2006, 06:38:51 PM
Speaking of being stung and not stung.  Earlier this year when I helped the local commercial farmer I would have many bees climbing all over my jeans.  Some would sting.  I even had the unfortunate experience of having a couple get up my pant leg..  Anyway once the summer heat started rolling in the ticks and chiggers become so bad here you would have be covered with them just after one yard.  We use Deep Woods Off bug repellent and it seems to work pretty good keeping the bees off the pants, shirt and head.  Food for thought.

I would only suggest using it for those parts of your body that dont go in the hive though.
Title: Re: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: BeeHopper on July 16, 2006, 07:57:10 PM
Quote from: heidipI have a question...I'm a new beekeeper this year and I've not been wearing gloves, which IS the way I prefer it..but it seems that at least every other time I'm in my hive I get stung on the fingers or the hands...and I still (after 7 stings since I started in April) swell real good for a couple of days...I did try to wear the gloves 1 time...and it was as expected...the gloves are so clumsy that they got stung about a dozen times...which of course meant aggitated honeybees! So it was an unpleasant inspection...I just wonder if anyone has tried any rubber or neoprene gloves or something that's tighter to the fingers and would offer some better dexterity and sensitivity than those clumsy leather beekeepers gloves (light colored of course)...I'm even wearing xs and they're still just bulky? I would appreciate any ideas or suggestions that you all may have! Many Thanks!

"Happy is he who hath the power to gather wisdom from a flower"

I use Nitrile gloves one size smaller for a tight fit and excellent dexterity, not to protect from stings, but from the messy propolis in the hive.  :D
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: randydrivesabus on July 16, 2006, 09:08:19 PM
what mil gloves?
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: mark on July 16, 2006, 11:53:18 PM
your getting stung with the gloves and without tells me you need to be slower and more careful working the bees OR your bees are just too aggressive.  i made sure the gloves i use fit well even if i need to turn them inside out and stitch the fingers tighter in the tips.  some fingers are just too long if i don't do this.
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: CraigW on July 17, 2006, 12:07:22 AM
I started in April as well but, I do wear gloves, the clumsy bee gloves.
The only time I have a problem is when I go to pick up a frame so I use a good pair of pliers that works great.

If my fingers can't get it the pliers do, I just make sure I have a good grip. I have seen gloves get stung but I haven't had the dis-pleasure of it yet.
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: fcderosa on July 17, 2006, 12:29:27 AM
I wear gloves all the time, as a jeweler I can't afford to lose work with swollen fingers.  Get some good quality cowhide gloves - soft and pliable, and fit to your hand.  Good gloves make a world of difference and make working with them so much easier.  Also work slower.  My girls are use to the gloves and don't get agitated with their use. :lol:
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: Brian D. Bray on July 17, 2006, 01:14:50 AM
>>The only protective equip I wear is a hat & veil.

How daring a naked beekeeper.  Getting stung on your fingers should be the least of your worries.  LOL  :)
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: kensfarm on July 17, 2006, 12:08:16 PM
I'm a neebee too..  I initially used a pair of Nitrile gloves from Brushy Mountain.. wasn't too long before they ripped at the finger tips.  

I bought a pair generic gloves from the grocery store that you use to wash dishes.. they are bright yellow..  thicker.. and cover halfway up your forarm.
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: heidip on July 17, 2006, 12:58:01 PM
I have heard of other people using dish gloves...I'll give that a try...also up here a lot of the beekeepers don't smoke the bees...we just spray them with the HBH...and it's been working fine..but I think now that they have good stores of honey and we're in a nectar dearth here...maybe it's time to start with the smoker...I do go very slowly and methodically when I'm in the hive, it just seems that they like to walk on my hands, maybe it's because I get the HBH on my hands while working...some times they just go merrily on their way..and other times, they just like to remind me who's boss...I really appreciate all of the feedback! Thanks!
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: Apis629 on July 17, 2006, 03:18:35 PM
It's rare for me not to use gloves when I open a hive.  I usually don't bother wearing gloves if the hive is small, say, the size of a nuc or so.  If it's too hot, I'll skip the jacket and just go in jeans, a t-shirt, gloves and a veil.  Do I have to make it any clearer, Brian D. Bray :lol: ?  I can't stand stings to my fingers but, anywere else (ankle, leg, back, arm, etc.) they're no big deal.  I've actually found that I aggitate more bees when I don't wear gloves in the larger hives.  I usually go over them with a magnifying glass, just to count stings per hive.  It usually doesn't get above 2 :) .
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: Jay on July 17, 2006, 06:26:37 PM
If you don't want to wear gloves (I only wear them when I do building removals) try smoking your hands before you work your bees. Not wearing gloves allows you to have more tactile response and therefore crush less bees. Less bees crushed = less alarm pheromone released! :D
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: heidip on July 17, 2006, 08:32:52 PM
Thank you I will use my smoker on my next visit...Thanks! heidi
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: Summerbee on July 18, 2006, 07:04:42 PM
I don gloves whenever I delve into my hive, i.e. go down to the brood chamber.  If I am feeding them sugar water or just checking the honey supers then I don't .  I have only been stung a couple times wearing gloves (on the glove). Mine are a size Medium, mens,  it is like having socks on your hands.  I kind  of stitched them to fit around the fingertips and hands.  But then they get hot and sticky.   I just can't win, can I? :)

Oddly enough I find that I am stung mostly on the shoes and ankles.  I started ducttaping my pantlegs to my sneakers.  Another beekeeper reccomended knee high cowboy boots to keep bees out of your pants and socks.  I'm on the lookout for old ones for cheap price. It Sounds like a good idea  - anybody tried it?
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: Jerrymac on July 18, 2006, 07:24:59 PM
Quote from: SummerbeeIt Sounds like a good idea  - anybody tried it?

Tried what? You mean people wear something other than boots :shock:
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: Apis629 on July 18, 2006, 07:38:07 PM
I've been known to check bees in socks and sandles.  Usually, I'll wear my sneakers.
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: rsilver000 on July 18, 2006, 07:42:23 PM
Something else to keep in mind, if your gloves get stung, smoke the area around the sting to mask the pheramones released during the sting.  You will get much less aggitation in the bees.
Cheers,
Rob
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: Davzbeez on July 18, 2006, 10:20:15 PM
If I am going into the brood area, I wear thin leather gloves that I have stitched the fingers tight on.  I also tuck the bottoms of my beesuit into my army boots.  I have  not had a problem with bees getting into my pants! :D
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: Brian D. Bray on July 18, 2006, 10:57:39 PM
Hightop bloused boots are the best way to avoid bees crawling up the legs.
For those with no military background a bloused boot is wearing boots with the pants let tucked into the tops and the boots is then laced up and tied.
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: latebee on July 19, 2006, 12:36:49 AM
In the spring or early summer I never wear gloves. When I am removing supers for extraction or requeening later in the season I always wear gloves. I use cheap duct tape around the bottom of my jeans to keep the serious bees out of my pants. Never had a problem with bees stinging my shoes----never thought my feet smell,but maybe they do :lol:
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: Brian D. Bray on July 19, 2006, 02:58:59 AM
Here in the PNW we have a reputation for wierd weather.  In Oregon they even call themselves Ducks.  Here in Washington we have a Geoduck which is a clam--it rains so much.  In fact many natives have developed abnormalties--their feet smell and their noses run.  Turns your life upside down.
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: BMAC on July 19, 2006, 10:40:56 AM
Quote from: Brian D. BrayHightop bloused boots are the best way to avoid bees crawling up the legs.
For those with no military background a bloused boot is wearing boots with the pants let tucked into the tops and the boots is then laced up and tied.

For those of you who think tucking the pant legs into your boots is uncomfortable...  Here is a link to purchase some boot bands.  These bands are like tight rubber bands with hooks on each end to quickly tie/untie the pant leg around the boots.  Same concept though.  It works very very well.  Cheaper and faster than duct tape in the long run..

http://www.diamondbacktactical.com/Boot-Bands-Olive-Drab-1-pair-P681C34.aspx
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: Hi-Tech on July 19, 2006, 05:39:00 PM
When I do use gloves, I buy them one size smaller so they fit very tight. That helps some.
Title: Gloves - to be or not to be?
Post by: Dale on July 19, 2006, 09:19:32 PM
I never wear gloves, and do not really get stung all that often.  Its a matter of being a bit more careful when you handle your frames.  And you should be careful, because you may end up crushing the queen.  A little smoke, the bees dive into the box, and carefully go on your way, all the way into the brood area, which should not really be an issue. They are all younger bees anyway.