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Title: 8, 9 or 10 frames in Medium Honey Super?
Post by: tigerfankk on August 10, 2006, 01:46:37 PM
What number of frames will produce the most honey in the super?
8, 9 or 10.
I have Pierco frames.

thanks
Title: 8, 9 or 10 frames in Medium Honey Super?
Post by: Finsky on August 10, 2006, 01:58:37 PM
The amount of honey depends on pastures. When nectar is in flowers bees gather it what ever frames you have.  Another thing is, what is handy to the beekeeper.
Title: 8, 9 or 10 frames in Medium Honey Super?
Post by: tigerfankk on August 10, 2006, 04:39:33 PM
let me rephrase.  Will 8 frames in a 10 frame super hold more honey than 9 frames in a 10 frame super or 10 frames in a 10 frame super?
thanks
Title: 8, 9 or 10 frames in Medium Honey Super?
Post by: TwT on August 10, 2006, 11:43:12 PM
from what I have seen 10 frames holds just a little more than 9 and 9 frame holds a little more than 8, I run all 9 frames supers.... the reason I like 9 is because the comb gets built out past the top and side bars and it is easier to cut the capping off.... remember when using foundation you have to use 10 frames until they are drawn out because if you was to only use 8 or 9 frames of just foundation they will not draw them out right and will be ugly, once you get your frames drawn out the you can use 8 or 9 frames, after uncapping  and extracting honey just store the supers with their drawn comb for next year and just go with 8 or 9 frames then.....
Title: 8, 9 or 10 frames in Medium Honey Super?
Post by: Brian D. Bray on August 11, 2006, 12:57:53 AM
You will get about the same amount of honey in the super whether using 9 or 10 frames.  The only difference is that the lesser frame count results in deeper comb making it easier to uncap.  It also means you'll be straining more honey out of the cappings.
I would avoid 8 frames in a 10 frames box as the percieved difference in honey volume is actually insignificant and a misaligned frame can create problems.  The fewer frames in a box the more critical alignment becomes.  
To me, a better solution would be to trim the end bars and put 11 frames in instead of 10.  You'll not only be increasing honey storage space but aiding in varroa control at the same time.
Title: 8, 9 or 10 frames in Medium Honey Super?
Post by: TwT on August 11, 2006, 11:46:18 AM
Quote from: Brian D. BrayTo me, a better solution would be to trim the end bars and put 11 frames in instead of 10.  You'll not only be increasing honey storage space but aiding in varroa control at the same time.

I would do this in a brood chamber but not a honey super...... and I wouldn't ever put 8 frames in a super either because its too much room for them to make a mess....
Title: 8, 9 or 10 frames in Medium Honey Super?
Post by: tigerfankk on August 11, 2006, 05:34:54 PM
thanks for all the answers.  good heads up on using 10 frames with foundation.  i'm just starting out and have just foundation.  i have one deep and one med honey super full.  
thanks. i'll probably go with 9 frames once they are drawn out. i'll see how the uncapping goes tomorrow????
Title: 8, 9 or 10 frames in Medium Honey Super?
Post by: denart on August 11, 2006, 08:17:32 PM
what would be the prober spacing between frames that are drawn out...spacing 9 frames in a 10 fram super
thanks
dennis
Title: 8, 9 or 10 frames in Medium Honey Super?
Post by: TwT on August 11, 2006, 08:27:58 PM
I just judge on the supers I dont have spacers on, you can buy frame spacers cheap if you want, they do save time.... they just nail on the frame rest of your super.....

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Title: 8, 9 or 10 frames in Medium Honey Super?
Post by: Brian D. Bray on August 11, 2006, 10:41:12 PM
Frame rest = rabbet.