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BEEKEEPING LEARNING CENTER => GENERAL BEEKEEPING - MAIN POSTING FORUM. => Topic started by: AllanJ on March 12, 2007, 09:32:17 PM

Title: New Package & Permacomb
Post by: AllanJ on March 12, 2007, 09:32:17 PM
I will be trying out a new package of bees straight into permacomb. I am curious, but since there will be no comb to be drawn, what will the bees get up to in the first few days whilst the queen is still being eaten out of the cage?  Building stores of pollen?
Title: Re: New Package & Permacomb
Post by: Understudy on March 12, 2007, 09:37:12 PM
Make sure you prep the frames with sugar water and Honey B Healthy like the instructions say. The bees will bring in nectar and pollen. If you do not prep the frames they are likely to reject them.

Sincerely,
Brendhan
Title: Re: New Package & Permacomb
Post by: Kathyp on March 12, 2007, 09:52:35 PM
understudy, that's creepy!  i like it.   :evil:
Title: Re: New Package & Permacomb
Post by: Michael Bush on March 12, 2007, 10:27:26 PM
I'd just direct release the queen and let her get to work.
Title: Re: New Package & Permacomb
Post by: Zoot on March 12, 2007, 11:45:55 PM
I "directly released" my queens in both of my new hives last year and they got off to a fine start with no problems. It was actually an accident - in my haste to install the bees quickly I unwittingly un-corked the wrong end of both queen cages allowing them to move into their respective hives immediately. Of course one hive did superscede within a couple of weeks, apparently an increasingly common occurence I probably could not have prevented.
Title: Re: New Package & Permacomb
Post by: Brian D. Bray on March 14, 2007, 11:28:58 PM
forinstalling queens of different subspecies where the odors might be different enough between subspecies to matter (like putting a Russian queen in an Italian swarm) it is best to mask the difference in odors by using a strong scent.  Peppermint works--the old stand by is vanilla.  It takes a few days for the extrac oil to disipate and in the interm the queen gets to work and is usually accepted.