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Title: What harm is there in adding supers early?
Post by: Erich on April 18, 2007, 12:10:38 AM
My overwintered colony is doing pretty well. There is brood in both upper and lower deeps, but only on three to four of center frames. The laying pattern is oval and maybe 40% covered. I don't think it is a rel strong colony but am wondering how soon I can add a shallow super. Our nectar flow probably won't start for a month yet. Temperatures here are highs in the 50's, lows around 30 F. Am I too anxious?  Thank you ahead of time.

Erich
Title: Re: What harm is there in adding supers early?
Post by: Understudy on April 18, 2007, 01:03:19 AM
It will stress the hive. There aren't enough bees yet to keep the extra space at the proper temprature. Be patient.

Sincerely,
Brendhan
Title: Re: What harm is there in adding supers early?
Post by: imabkpr on April 18, 2007, 06:44:26 AM
Erich;  In a 2 story colony like you have with brood in the center of both hives i reverse the the brood chambers, then move brood from the top brood chamber to the bottom chamber. I want 6 frames of brood, a frame with pollen and 2 frames of food in the bottom box. If you have any extra brood left over put it in the center of the top box. If by chance you don't have enough bees or brood to fill the top box pull it off until the colony is strong enough to need it.  Charlie
Title: Re: What harm is there in adding supers early?
Post by: Erich on April 19, 2007, 12:03:56 AM
      Thank you both for the replys. I did reverse boxes earlier in the spring when there were no bees in the lower box. I've always been a bit leary of moving the frames around very much. I will decide when I do my next inspection. Thanks again.

    Erich
Title: Re: What harm is there in adding supers early?
Post by: Michael Bush on April 21, 2007, 04:12:46 PM
Better early than late, but I'd wait until the cold weather is past.
Title: Re: What harm is there in adding supers early?
Post by: annette on April 22, 2007, 12:42:25 PM
Quote from: Michael Bush on April 21, 2007, 04:12:46 PM
Better early than late, but I'd wait until the cold weather is past.

So this would answer my question about the fact I am going out of town for 2-1/2 weeks starting next week. I probably should add another super to both hives even though they are not ready, due to the fact they are making honey right now.
Temperatures will be in the 70's to 80's by next week before I leave.

annette
Title: Re: What harm is there in adding supers early?
Post by: Cindi on April 22, 2007, 12:47:17 PM
Consolidate the brood nest.  Yes, put the frames of brood all in the bottom box, that way there is room for the queen to move up, this will free up alot of space for her to lay.  It is easier for the bees to keep the brood warm if they are together, rather than spread out in two boxes.  Best of a beautiful day, good luck, good health.  Cindi
Title: Re: What harm is there in adding supers early?
Post by: annette on April 22, 2007, 01:08:41 PM
I have a new queen since my hive swarmed last month. So I do not have so much brood right now. but I will remember that for future reference.

Thank you so much
Annette
Title: Re: What harm is there in adding supers early?
Post by: Michael Bush on April 22, 2007, 02:21:29 PM
>I probably should add another super to both hives even though they are not ready, due to the fact they are making honey right now.

I think that's a good plan.
Title: Re: What harm is there in adding supers early?
Post by: Brian D. Bray on April 25, 2007, 12:45:54 AM
What part of Eastern Washington you from, Okanogan? Moses Lake? Down on the Palouse?

Washington has such diverse topography and climates that you can find a match in topography and climate for just about every state in the Union except the most tropical.  From Bayous or desert to Glaciers.
Title: Re: What harm is there in adding supers early?
Post by: jimmyo on April 27, 2007, 09:11:39 AM
we put 2 supers on when the dandelions bloom here in se Indiana.
Jim