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Title: syrup
Post by: randydrivesabus on April 27, 2007, 10:11:32 AM
this is just checking to see if i'm thinking right.....1:1 would be 2 lbs of sugar per quart?
Title: Re: syrup
Post by: Bee1 on April 27, 2007, 10:37:58 AM

   1 quart = 4 cups therefore for a 1:1 ration you add
   4 cups of sugar to 1 quart of h20

Title: Re: syrup
Post by: randydrivesabus on April 27, 2007, 10:40:55 AM
i thought it was by weight not volume. 1 gal water=8 lbs (or so).
Title: Re: syrup
Post by: cbarton on April 27, 2007, 10:48:52 AM
you may want to check out the new zealand beekeeper's assoc. web site, where there is a calculator to help you determine correct proportions of water and sugar for a variety of formulations of syrup.
you can find it at
beekeeping.co.nz
(add the www prefix ) 
Title: Re: syrup
Post by: Shizzell on April 27, 2007, 01:42:50 PM
Hmm. Why would it matter? 1 to 1 ratio is just "x" number of cups of sugar to "x" number of cups of water. In cooking, ratios are by volume unless otherwise noted. (2 cups of sugar to 2 cups of water)

Jake
Title: Re: syrup
Post by: Bennettoid on April 27, 2007, 01:47:55 PM
It's by pounds. But the formula I use I read about and was told to use was 5 pounds of sugar to about a gallon of water, maybe a little less than a gallon. You end up with more than a gallon of syrup. It seems to work.
Title: Re: syrup
Post by: ZuniBee on April 27, 2007, 01:51:28 PM
I measure 20 cups of water (I fill the 2 cup measuring cup 10 times) and heat almost to a boil. I remove from the heat and dump in a 10 pound bag of sugar and stir. It becomes syrup in about 4 minutes. I add 4 tsp of Honey B Healthy and stir.

The bees love it.
Title: Re: syrup
Post by: Bennettoid on April 27, 2007, 01:53:17 PM
About how much syrup does that give you?
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Post by: ZuniBee on April 27, 2007, 02:08:43 PM
Quote from: Bennettoid on April 27, 2007, 01:53:17 PM
About how much syrup does that give you?

2 gallons
Title: Easiest way to make syrup
Post by: reinbeau on April 27, 2007, 07:19:18 PM
Take a one-gallon jug.  Put in a five pound bag of sugar.  Fill to the top with piping hot tap water.  Shake, shake, shake.  Perfect 1:1 syrup.
Title: Re: Easiest way to make syrup
Post by: Mklangelo on April 27, 2007, 07:26:14 PM
Quote from: reinbeau on April 27, 2007, 07:19:18 PM
Take a one-gallon jug.  Put in a five pound bag of sugar.  Fill to the top with piping hot tap water.  Shake, shake, shake.  Perfect 1:1 syrup.

One gallon= 16 cups   so to make 1:1 syrup  it's 16 cups sugar to 16 cups water.


How many cups of sugar = one pound of sugar?
Title: Re: syrup
Post by: AllanJ on April 27, 2007, 07:38:02 PM
I have settled on this..  8 cups of water to 5lbs of sugar.  I have a kettle that boils 7 cups of water and then I add 1 cup of cold water. Pour in the 5lb bag of sugar and stir.
Title: Re: Easiest way to make syrup
Post by: AllanJ on April 27, 2007, 07:47:05 PM
Quote from: Mklangelo on April 27, 2007, 07:26:14 PM
How many cups of sugar = one pound of sugar?

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Title: Re: syrup
Post by: Brian D. Bray on April 27, 2007, 11:42:26 PM
I'm glad none of you were doing my income taxes. 

Please memorize the following little diddy:  A pints a pound the world around.   

With water and sugar too.  Hence 1:1 syrup should be 1 lb (pint) to 1 pint (pound) of water.  There are 8 pints to a gallon, therefore at 1 pound to the pint a gallon of water weighs 8 pounds.  1 gallon of water to 8 pounds of sugar will yield about 1 1/3 gallons of syrup. 

Hope that clarifies things for all syrup mixologists.
Title: Re: syrup
Post by: reinbeau on April 28, 2007, 12:57:13 PM
Brian, the reason the gallon jug works is that once you've put the sugar in you can't put a whole gallon of water in there - the ratio is correct (we had this explained to us at our bee club, and these guys have been doing it for a long time - the guy giving the talk has been a beek for over 50 years).
Title: Re: syrup
Post by: n9kww on April 28, 2007, 06:10:44 PM
OIt is not that big of a deal, if the mix is 2:1 or 1.89:1 the bees don't care. The only time it MIGHT make a difference is in cold weather the freezing temp is a bit different depending on the mix. In short for a 1 to on add equal amounts for 2:1 double suger.

Hope that clarifies it for all. If you really want the perfect mix i can go into organic chem. and break it down...
Ron
Title: Re: syrup
Post by: Mici on April 28, 2007, 06:18:32 PM
1 kilo of sugar to 1 kilo of water( a liter)
imperial pwned again, LOL
but brian has it right, a pound is roughly half a kilo and a pint is roughly half a liter.


p.s. really sorry but i just had to :-D
Title: Re: syrup
Post by: soilserf40 on April 28, 2007, 07:46:12 PM
Since one gal. of water =  8.33 pounds, your ratio sounds right.
Title: Re: syrup
Post by: wrk4beer on April 28, 2007, 08:41:22 PM
 I'm still confused math is not my thing, so how much water and sugar am I suppposed to use?
LOL
Title: Re: syrup
Post by: AllanJ on April 28, 2007, 09:42:21 PM
You will continue to get different answers to that question :)

1 gallon of water (16 cups or 4 quarts) and either 8lbs or 10 lbs of sugar.

The link that some refer to is:
http://www.beekeeping.co.nz/convert.htm#sugarmix1

Which gives the amount of sugar at 9.8lbs.

I make mine with 8 cups of water and 5lbs of sugar.. Mainly because a) I have the perfect jug that holds the end result.. b) I buy 5lb bags of sugar and just pour the whole lot in,  c) I have a kettle that boils 7 cups of water.. so no boiling water on the stove.

Fill the kettle.. turn on, water 4 minutes, measure out 7 cups, add 1 cup of water from the tap. Pour in a 5lb bag of sugar and stir until clear.