M. Bush....Pls read......

[mgates61]

I have been trying to decide what type of foundation to use.  You have mentioned "permacomb" several times.  I can not seem to locate it for sale.  Could you give me a link to that please ????


Thanks for all the info you have available also.

[LocustHoney]

Not sure this is what you want but here is something......www.smallcellbees.com

[NWIN Beekeeper]

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[NWIN Beekeeper]

  PERMACOMB

Thank you for your interest in PermaComb. The following lists just some of the advantages of using PermaComb and the reasons this product was created:

    * Fully drawn plastic comb ­ NOT foundation. The main honey flow is usually a few short months per year. The time it takes your bees to draw comb from foundation can be used to store honey. The bees require ~8 pounds of honey to produce one pound of wax. Avoid this penalty and increase your honey production 50%.
    * Impervious to wax moth and hive beetle larvae. All wax comb is susceptible to destruction by these pests. Avoid the horrendous mess and destruction. Avoid poisoning your comb and honey by using PDB (paradichlorobenzene), wax moth crystals. Avoid the associated purchase cost of this chemical - forever.
    * Can be used for both brood and honey supers. PermaComb will not ever break in an extractor. PermaComb is 100% worker cell size and the bees cannot alter its shape. Therefore you avoid unwanted drone comb and do not have to cull out and replace old comb.
    * Buy it once, buy it for life. I am still using the same comb I purchased 28 years ago. PermaComb does NOT wear out. Avoid the cost in materials and having to clean, build/rebuild frames and install foundation. There are better things to do with your time.
    * Will not absorb chemicals. Using Apistan and Checkmite+ will not result in a build-up of the chemicals associated with these products over time. This is NOT true of wax comb.
    * Ready to use right out of the box. No assembly required. Each case of PermaComb comes with its own pair of reversible 9/10 frame spacers.
    * Available only in mediums. Full depth honey supers are way too heavy to manipulate in 90+ F degree weather wearing a bee suit. Using medium supers is also much easier on the back.
    * Application note: Plastic comb must be introduced to the bees in super lots for bee acceptance purposes. Plastic comb should not be mixed with undrawn foundation.


An Empty PermaComb frame and reversible 9 or 10 frame spacers

CLAIMS, SPECS & INFO:

    * Fully drawn plastic comb (high density polypropylene*) - not foundation
    * One piece molded unit with it's own ears
    * Cells fully drawn on both sides at a normal cell angle
    * Virtually indestructible
    * Longevity - buy it once / buy it for life
    * Ease of Handling
    * No assembly required-ready to use right out of box
    * Fast extracting speeds
    * Increased honey production per hive (50%)
    * Will not absorb chemicals
    * Is boilable / Steam cleanable
    * Unaffected by high pressure water hose
    * Impervious to Wax moth/hive beetle larvae
    * Made of 100% worker sized cells
    * Reduces labor
    * No acceptance problem by bees
    * Unalterable by the bees
    * Guaranteed for 10 years except the ears
    * Can be used for both honey and brood supers
    * 10 combs per case; comes with 9 & 10 frame reversible strip spacers

Specifications:    
    * Top Bar: 19"
    * Main comb: 17 _"
    * Depth: 6"
    * Weight: 1.3 lbs.
    * Total # of cells: 4300 (2150 per side)
    * Heat Tolerance: 220 degrees F.
    * Extractor speed tolerance: 900-1100 RPMs

Price List: (does not include shipping)    Price is per comb (minimum 10 combs or 1 case)
10 - 150   US:    3.50    Outside US    3.25
160 - 490           3.25         3.00
500 - 990         3.00         3.00
1000 +                  2.90         2.90

Anyone who has bought a total of 1000 frames in the past qualifies for a discount whereby with any order up to 1000, regardless of quantity, each frame is only 3.00/ea.
* 23.8 melt / .9328 density

National/International PermaComb Distributor:

John Seets (Seets Apiaries)
2203 Belleview Rd.
Catonsville, MD. 21228

Work: 410-765-6361
Home: 410-788-9006
E-Mail: [email protected] (preferable)

[Michael Bush]

Because of the current shipping prices Mr. Seets is only drop shipping full pallets (1000 frames) from California.  There is a thread on here by Understudy who is trying to get enough people to split an order and he will ship them.

http://www.beesource.com/bee-l/bulletinboard/seets/permacomb.htm