New Queen & Queen Cells

Started by tedlemay, April 23, 2012, 08:33:38 PM

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tedlemay

Have been replacing a queen in a queenless hive. I cut out all the queen cells and added the new queen. Checked in 4 days and she was still in her cage, the girls had built 4 more queen cells and capped them (in 4 days). Removed cells and going to wait 2 more days.

#1 Is it common for the workers to continue to build queen cells after you put in a new queen? If I release her will they kill her?

#2 Is it common for them to cap a queen cell in 4 days? (there could not have been eggs there, but very young larve)
Thanks for the advise!
Teddy

Michael Bush

>Have been replacing a queen in a queenless hive. I cut out all the queen cells and added the new queen.

Why didn't you just let them finish the queens they were making?

>Checked in 4 days and she was still in her cage, the girls had built 4 more queen cells and capped them (in 4 days). Removed cells and going to wait 2 more days.

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>#1 Is it common for the workers to continue to build queen cells after you put in a new queen?

Not if she is making enough pheromones.

>If I release her will they kill her?

Are they biting the cage?

>#2 Is it common for them to cap a queen cell in 4 days? (there could not have been eggs there, but very young larve)

They can start with a hatched larvae and yes, they would cap it four days later.

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tedlemay

no, they are not bitting the cage. they keep it covered but are not agressive toward her. we cut all the cells out again and are going to wait another 2 days. How long can she stay in the cage without harming her?

Kathyp

you might consider for next time that you  have 100% odds of them accepting a queen that they have raised, and very good odds that they will have chosen and nurtured a good one.  you'll also save yourself money and  work. 

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FRAMEshift

Unless you don't want the genetics of the queen cells, there is no reason to remove them. You are doing a lot of work for nothing.  If the bees don't like the caged queen, let them raise their own.
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Michael Bush

>How long can she stay in the cage without harming her?

I've banked queens for months to see and I can't see any harm.  But the hive needs a laying queen.
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tedlemay

Thats the point, I am trying to change the genetics of this hive.