Question on Hive Strength

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Quote from: rdy-b on June 17, 2012, 02:17:47 AM
--this isn't feeding its getting your bees to secrete wax by stimulating them with thin syrup-

It's not about bee nutrition, true.  But why use thin syrup?  I think the bees are already stimulated to make wax at that point.  They need the space, but they may not have enough sugar to make enough wax quickly.  I use 5:3 for all purposes.  The idea is to get the sugar into the bees and the wax out of the bees as fast as possible.  Doesn't more dense syrup get the sugar into the bees faster and more efficiently?
"You never can tell with bees."  --  Winnie-the-Pooh

rdy-b

 thin syrup emulates nectar-they digest nectar for food source--they treat thick syrup like honey run it through
there honey gut adding enzymes so they can store it without fermentation -nectar is bees first food choices
honey is simply there form of hard tack-so they have food source when there is no bloom-put out a bowl of honey and also a bowl of thin syrup and they will take down the thin syrup first--RDY-B

jataylor

WOW!  Didn't realize that a simple question could raise such a ruckus!   Lots of good info and I appreciate the opportunity to glean all this great knowledge as a NewBee!  Temps did warm up this week and when I opened the hive on Saturday, lots of activity.  Still great laying patter by queen and frames filled out.  Put on a another 8 frame super.  Lots of activity at the hive entrance coming and going yesterday and today.  Heavy pollen loads coming in.  Figure it was just a matter of time and some warming up.  Think we are going to be OK!  Thanks for the dialogue!

Finski

Quote from: jataylor on June 18, 2012, 09:15:47 PM
WOW!  Didn't realize that a simple question could raise such a ruckus! 

Guys have done this simple thing very difficult.

First of all, bees need not draw combs fast. They do what they do. Some faster than others.
Worst is filling cells with sugar and then the cells are not avaiable for brood.


I have used 20% syrup to swarms. When bees store the syrup, they build wall of cell but they cannot store and cap the sugar. It works fine. The strength of syrup is not written in law book.



I have feeded hundreds of swarms in my life and there is nothing strange of difficult in that.

But everybody should look inside the hive that what they are doing that new combs will be not filled with nectar+sugar. Sometimes nectar flow is  so big in nature that it fills all combs even if you do not feed them.
Bees spead the nectar on wider area than honey.

Just now we have swarming time and raspberry gives a huge load of nectar. It is better not to feed, unless weathers are rainy.

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rdy-b


**WOW!  Didn't realize that a simple question could raise such a ruckus!**
:beemaster:

 
**Bees spead the nectar on wider area than honey.**

could you tell us why this is --rockstar-- :lol:

   ;) RDY-B


Finski

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rdy-b