AFB or EFB

Started by Hemlock, September 23, 2012, 09:05:18 PM

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Hemlock

I have no experience with the foulbroods.  Is this it and which one?

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danno

I dont see anything.   maybe a poor queen or laying worker. 

bernsad

I think he's referring to a couple of odd looking cells. There is one just right of centre, and I can't make out what is happening with the one in the lower right quadrant. Don't know if htey are just bees hatching out or if they are dead in their cells.

More info.... please.

BeeMaster2

What are your night time temps? Looks like the bees died in the cell.
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rdy-b

 that is nether AFB OR EFB if there is any thing starting out of the ordinary i would say mild chalk brood
is starting-but there are many reasons why the condition in the pic would accrue -there is nothing to
be worried about from the pic-the bees will take care of it --check your mite load many viruses  from mites mimic
brood disorders--RDY-B

Hemlock

Thanks rdy-b.  Mite load is minor.  That is i wouldn't treat this colony this year.

I'm concerned about the black stuff you see.  Those were pupa.  You can see darker than normal pupa in some of the cells too.  I'm doing a 'String test' today.  Night temps are in the 50's.

From what i saw yesterday it's  "No Queen".  Was considering option when this came up.  Don't want to combine with infected bees.
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Hemlock

Here is an image of the string test on a dark & capped drone cell.  It was difficult to create a string of any size.  I got it to work 2 out of 10 times.  I tried it with an UNcapped one that was black & shriveled.  It was moist but would not string and disintegrated.  I looked under the hood of a handful of capped drones. I couldn't find any more unhealthy looks pupa. 


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hardwood

A crappy looking frame for sure but doesn't look like disease to me. Looks like a queenless situation and looks like it was once robbed too. What do the other frames look like? How's the population?

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Hemlock

State Apiarist said it is 'Chilled Brood'.  Which make a lot of sense given the population of this hive.  Now i know what Chilled brood looks like.  The bees can be dealt with without fear of infecting other hives.

Thanks to everyone.
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