nuc\ten frame split ?

Started by rookie2531, July 15, 2014, 08:16:43 PM

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rookie2531

I am reading some split in a full hive and others saying they are going to make nuc splits. And I am thinking what is the difference? If a ten frame hive doesn't have enough drawn frames at the beginning of winter couldn't one just pull the frames and put them in a nuc box. I am going to make some nuc boxes out of plywood this fall for splitting them in the spring but just for the reason of using less frames and not having comb built all over a partial box. What is the difference in a ten frame hive and a five frame nuc other than the obvious. Seriously, what is the purpose? Is using less frames to start the only reason?

GSF

There's a couple of reasons I'm sure. The first thing that comes to my mind would be the space, or rather empty space. If you don't have a big bunch of bees that empty space could invite trouble of some sorts.
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sc-bee

You will find they build up a lot quicker in a five frame NUC.
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10framer

it's less of a set back for the original hive but enough to prevent a swarm (sometimes).

Wolfer

Bees do best in a box that is just big enough. Too big and they seem to have a hard time building up. Too small they want to go in swarm mode.

I do most of my splits in July/August. If using five frames of mixed brood and a queen I'll put them in a full sized box. They expand pretty quick.
If using five frames of mixed brood and letting them raise their own queen I'll use a nuc. It will be enough room for about 7 weeks usually depending on how much brood was in the nuc to start with.