What is the best wood for hive body construction - not cheapest - BEST!

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#20
May 19, 2014, 12:50:36 PM
Thank you! (Tho those of you who liked the my hives)
Darn auto-correct...
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minz

#21
July 11, 2014, 03:00:55 AM
It is more about the glue, primer and paint than the wood.  (IMHO) but I build furniture.  It kills me to paint my hives when they look so nice but I only want to do it one time, not every 3 years.

Poor decisions make the best stories.

Michael Bush

#22
July 11, 2014, 11:11:52 AM
How are "best" and "cheapest" not the same thing?  Cheap is a very important factor.  Cheap and weight are both important.  Assuming neither matter, then white oak would be nice... but I don't want to lift it or buy it...
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Jim134

#23
July 11, 2014, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: minz on July 11, 2014, 03:00:55 AM
It is more about the glue, primer and paint than the wood.  (IMHO) but I build furniture.  It kills me to paint my hives when they look so nice but I only want to do it one time, not every 3 years.


minz ..........

This may help you to STOP primer and paint 

http://bushfarms.com/beesdipping.htm

Thank You Michael Bush.......


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"Tell me and I'll forget,show me and I may  remember,involve me and I'll understand"
        Chinese Proverb

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John F. Kennedy
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Michael Bush

#24
July 11, 2014, 12:50:04 PM
It's been about a decade since I painted a hive...
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minz

#25
July 30, 2014, 04:48:05 PM
I have looked at this before but the initial cost of getting up and running is pretty high.  Pine gum rosin and paraffin is about $10/ pound.  In addition a welded tank, and storage when not in use is required. I have no idea how many pounds it would take to fill a tank big enough for a deep. Bringing it to temp and doing one box at a time would be a full day event for even my small number of boxes. I do not know how a large operator can do that if a small guy like me cannot.
A great system perhaps but too much front end.  I run high grade exterior oops paint in neutral colors, usually at about $5 to $8 a gallon. I have been doing a coat of stain for the first coat for primer. Besides I have my painting system down: Boy child #1 you prime,  clean the brushes and rollers when you are done, Boy child #2 first coat and bag the brushes Girl child #2 you get final coat.
:-D
Poor decisions make the best stories.

Michael Bush

#26
August 02, 2014, 12:48:48 PM
>A great system perhaps but too much front end.

Agreed.  I didn't invest in it until I was buying another 300 boxes, another 150 bottoms and making another 100 covers.  Then I dipped all of that plus the 200 boxes, 100 bottoms and 100 lids I already had...
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My book:  ThePracticalBeekeeper.com
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Jim134

#27
August 02, 2014, 07:01:38 PM
In the original post I didn't believe cost was a factor :shock:



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"Tell me and I'll forget,show me and I may  remember,involve me and I'll understand"
        Chinese Proverb

"The farmer is the only man in our economy who buys everything at retail, sells everything at wholesale, and pays the freight both ways."
John F. Kennedy
Franklin County Beekeepers Association MA. http://www.franklinmabeekeepers.org/

dfizer

#28
August 05, 2014, 10:18:59 AM
Quote from: Michael Bush on July 11, 2014, 11:11:52 AM
How are "best" and "cheapest" not the same thing?  Cheap is a very important factor.  Cheap and weight are both important.  Assuming neither matter, then white oak would be nice... but I don't want to lift it or buy it...

"Best" as used in my original post was meant to imply most durable and rarely are the most durable products in any industry the cheapest.  I cant think of one high-quality item in any category that is cheapest.  It's cheapest, period and likely one will be replacing it soon.  Cost is indeed a very important factor however cheap is not.   

I absolutely love the concept and idea of dipping the wood in the wax as shown in the links before.  It looks outstanding!  From the pics, it looks like these will last a very long time.  One question - does the type of wood make any difference when dipping?  For instance does pine take the solution better than say hemlock?  Have you ever had a problem with the solution adhering to any of the boxes?  What prep needs to be done to the boxes prior to dipping? 

David 
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