My first swarm, my bees, today. Odd advice?

Started by SurprisingWoman, July 07, 2011, 01:49:56 AM

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SurprisingWoman

I had my first swarm from my own bees today.  I had seen swarm cells in one of my hives so I am pretty sure that's where they came from.  They were in a tree in my front yard, close to the side yard apiary.

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I called our local beekeeping supply store, since my mentor is out of the country, and she advised me to try and combine the swarm with their original hive.  She advised me to use something to keep the swarm separate from the hive but I didn't have it and she recommended newspaper.  When I told her that the swarm was HUGE, six or seven pounds then she told me to go ahead and make two hives of them. 

My questions are:
A.  I have two boxes with wax foundation (10 frames) in each box.  Two of the frames in each box are filled with honey from my hive last fall, so 8 to work and 2 with food.
B.  I tried to pull a frame of brood from my strong hive but they were being aggressive and with me needing to move my swarm I didn't want to be stung and annoyed so I didn't pull any brood frames that may or may not help.  Is having a frame of brood in a new swarm box that important?
C.  I have the two frames of honey and plenty of room for the new queen to make brood.  Should I be feeding them since there isn't a lot of flow in Utah right now?
D.  The new box I added to the hive that swarmed isn't being used at all.  There are a few girls walking around but they aren't "working" it.  I am going to checkerboard from the box below it and I will also spray the wax foundation with sugar water tomorrow to get them going .  They are the hive that is probably queenless.  How long should I go before I look to see if there are eggs?  Should I feed the hive that was swarmed from? 

So many questions.  I know not to disturb the newly formed hive.  but I also don't want to disturb the hive the swarm was from

Ugh

Any ideas or advice?

sc-bee

#1
b. some folks think it helps hold them but not necessary. I don't unless it is a weak swarm and needs a boost!
c. Yes-feed the swarm
d. depends on the stage of the cells, weather etc. --- usually two weeks after emergence to mate and lay. Could be less could be more. Feed? Depends on your stores on the hive.

John 3:16

L Daxon

I hived a good strong swarm from one of my hives earlier this spring.  Put it in a empty box with some drawn comb and they absconded by next morning.  I wish I had put a queen excluder under the box to keep the queen in for a few days till they all got used to being there.  That is just one option you might have considered. Giving them a frame of brood and extra feed is always a good idea, if you have it.
linda d

bee-nuts

Brood is not necessary.  It may keep a swarm from absconding that otherwise would have.

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Thomas Jefferson

sc-bee

I have never had a swarm abscond with or without brood. I sure my next one will leave now. Now our friend Bud in Ms. hives far more swarms than I ever will. He is sort of a swarm catcher like a fisherman catches fish. He has them leave quite frequently.
John 3:16