Drone Laying Queen Fix?

Started by GSF, April 07, 2014, 10:08:49 PM

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GSF

I put a frame of eggs in the hive with the drone laying queen. The frame was placed just below a frame that had a q cup with royal jelly in it. Should this solve the problem?

My next step will be to see if they make a q cell or cells, then nix the queen. Right?
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Wolfer

My bees never would supersede a drone layer. I seen where others say theirs has. I always had to smack her first.

iddee

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drlonzo

Most of the time if there is a drone laying queen the workers don't superseed her.  You will need to give her the ole hive tool test before they will do it in most all cases.

sc-bee

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GSF

How long do I have left to remove the old queen before it's too late for this frame of eggs to produce a new queen?
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iddee

Two days after the eggs become larva, but queens made the day they hatch are better queens.
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sterling

If you can get another queen you will be a month ahead of the game.

GSF

I went in and pulled the queen this afternoon. I got a fellow who's going through his hives tomorrow and will give me queen cells if he finds any. He's done have 4 or 5 swarms this year - probably ain't any left.

Somebody help a rookie out here, I'm looking at this queen and she's a beaut. Big, fat, and the perfect picture of what you'd want to see when you find a queen. If she didn't get mated would she look like this? I've got her in a queen clip in the kitchen. With her description in mind, just give me the word and she'll be lure bait.
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sterling

Pretty or not she should be laying worker eggs also. I had one like that a couple weeks ago. She was just laying in drone comb. I gave her a few days and checked again and still just laying in drone comb. Got a new queen.

iddee

She probably mated with too few drones. I would dispose of her if you have a replacement. Otherwise, make up a nuc with her and see what she does there. I wouldn't put her back in the hive. A nuc would tell the story in 2 weeks.
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Michael Bush

Sometimes they will rear a new queen when you give eggs to them with a drone layer.  For a sure thing, remove the drone layer...
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GSF

We removed her and a couple of workers with a queen clip. One of the workers got loose. The next morning the other worker was dead on the floor and she was dead in the queen clip. I put them in my bathroom by the nightlight. The nightlight had little to no heat contained by the bulb. We remodeled this area and pretty much finished up about two or three weeks ago. I would guess something poisoned them but there's no poison around there. Any reason they would die like that?
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drlonzo

Lack of food.  Queens and workers are constantly eating.  Queens get royal jelly, which is made from the glands in the worker's , and workers eat both honey and pollen to produce it.  Without either of those things the workers can't produce royal jelly, which would in turn starve the queen.

GSF

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drlonzo

There's a reason that the package producers put all their queens in a queen bank while waiting to put the packages together.  Even when they ship one to you from afar, there's always attendants with her and the candy end of the queen cage is the food for the workers. 

GSF

Learn something every day. Thanks.
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