AHB Identification

dpence · April 28, 2009, 02:59:18 PM

Suppose a person wanted to sample a feral hive to make sure it was not Africanized? Where would you send the sample and how? I have been called about removing a hive of bees from a tree, and the general idea from these individuals is they believe they are AHB. Apparently last year the individual lost a dog do to stings from this hive after the dog chased a squirrel up the tree where the hive exists. This is in Missouri so I am very skeptical and want to quash any idea one way or the other. Rumors spread ramped in a small community.

David

Keith13 · April 28, 2009, 03:55:16 PM

David do a search on AHB ID someone on the forums do the tests I want to say it was someone from FL, The name just escapes me right now. I will also look for it for you think it might be Brendhan

Keith

oldenglish · April 28, 2009, 04:08:49 PM

I found some good info on this site,

http://acwm.co.la.ca.us/scripts/AHB.htm

doak · April 28, 2009, 09:30:52 PM

First off, has it been determined that AHB's are that far north.
I sent my Suspects to the University Of Georgia. Of course I'm in Ga.
Catch about fifty to 100 in a quart jar, spray with either or if you can get the denatured alcohol in to the jar with out loosing many bees. I then put mine in a 8 or 12 ounce plastic honey bottle "don't remember which" and in a padded envelope.

The nearest Bee lab or University that does bee work should accept them.
doak

Michael Bush · April 28, 2009, 11:08:52 PM

All I want to know is are they nice? If they are nice, I want them. If they are mean, I do not want them. Many things could work to test that. (With a veil on of course) blow in the hive and see how many come after you.

dpence · April 28, 2009, 11:15:07 PM

Quote from: doak on April 28, 2009, 09:30:52 PM
First off, has it been determined that AHB's are that far north.
I sent my Suspects to the University Of Georgia. Of course I'm in Ga.
Catch about fifty to 100 in a quart jar, spray with either or if you can get the denatured alcohol in to the jar with out loosing many bees. I then put mine in a 8 or 12 ounce plastic honey bottle "don't remember which" and in a padded envelope.

The nearest Bee lab or University that does bee work should accept them.
doak

That's why I am skeptical. According to what I can find there is no confirmed existence of AHB in Missouri. I am thinking they are just a bit aggressive. My wife and I viewed the tree and never got head butted, but a few did buzz by our heads. Keep in mind the entrance is about 15' up. I got a few pictures but it was cloudy that day. I will check on what Universities do bee work. I don't think Mizzou does, they do have an entomology department, but nonspecific to honey bees.

David

jayj200 · January 04, 2015, 07:51:29 PM

When do you consider a hive too HOT and should be destroyed?

I just whent to a friends hive thank goodnes I was suited up.
from the outside they seamed normal. weather was fine and still is 4 hours later.
every frame I moved relaesed a new wave of bees
yes I smoked the entrance yes I smoked them with pine needels.
then I smoked myself the torent would subside a little. smoke the box move the frame gently and fifty bees would come batting my vail many times.
Like I said I was fully suited no stings. yea!
we are down in AHB teritory Fl has said all feral hives are AHB.

So guy got this lady my friend some bees, these ones he got the call because they were mean.
did that cutout and put them in her box. was that ethical?
later her tree trimers were attacked and chased out of the yard. they did not like the chainsaw.
later I went and you know the story above.
I told her the are too HOT and should be destroyed.yes or no?
replaced with a package of bees. yes or no?

How is the best way to destroy them? lets not use pesticides inside the box

buzzbee · January 04, 2015, 08:16:15 PM

Ether.

GDRankin · January 04, 2015, 10:25:21 PM

Quote from: oldenglish on April 28, 2009, 04:08:49 PM
I found some good info on this site,

http://acwm.co.la.ca.us/scripts/AHB.htm

FYI - That link is not working (for me anyway)
Here's what I get:
The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

I was hoping to read that info . . . any chance that was a typo?
Thanks

texanbelchers · January 04, 2015, 10:32:08 PM

The link is from 2009. Most sites cycle at least every 3 years and most don't retain old content.