Requeening

iddee · February 28, 2009, 08:54:35 PM

Rast, me and Bjorn go back a long ways. Like he says, we're not arguing, we're having fun.

He's an all right guy. Just don't tell him that. It might go to his head.

TwT · March 01, 2009, 12:58:27 PM

Quote from: BjornBee on February 28, 2009, 05:10:23 PM
I've had people tell me they waited so long for the queen to get out that by the time she did, they had raised another queen. And I'll bet that if a frame of eggs was moved over, then queen cells are there. And if the queen does get out, they will eventually kill her. Seen it many times.

working with pure Russian queens its takes a good 5 days in the cage to insure acceptance when introducing into a Italian hive, when waiting this length of time cells can be started and this has to be watched for, I have seen it before, you just have to take the cells out yourself. once the queen is released it is wise to check for cells again after a week to insure that no other cells are started, sometimes when they get in the cell building mode when queenless it takes a few weeks to get it out of there system. I think this is one problem that happens to people that say "my hive went queenless and I bought an introduced a new queen, she must not have been a good queen because after about a month they replaced her" all this person did was not find the queen cells when they introduced the new queen, now they have a emergency queen heading their hive, it happens all the time, anytime introducing a new queen cells should be watched for. this can happen when taking old queen out and introducing a young queen, not all hives build cells when swapping out young and old queens but when it takes a while like Russians queen introduction, always watch for cells.

BjornBee · March 01, 2009, 01:33:24 PM

Quote from: TwT on March 01, 2009, 12:58:27 PM
Quote from: BjornBee on February 28, 2009, 05:10:23 PM
I've had people tell me they waited so long for the queen to get out that by the time she did, they had raised another queen. And I'll bet that if a frame of eggs was moved over, then queen cells are there. And if the queen does get out, they will eventually kill her. Seen it many times.

working with pure Russian queens its takes a good 5 days in the cage to insure acceptance when introducing into a Italian hive, when waiting this length of time cells can be started and this has to be watched for, I have seen it before, you just have to take the cells out yourself. once the queen is released it is wise to check for cells again after a week to insure that no other cells are started, sometimes when they get in the cell building mode when queenless it takes a few weeks to get it out of there system. I think this is one problem that happens to people that say "my hive went queenless and I bought an introduced a new queen, she must not have been a good queen because after about a month they replaced her" all this person did was not find the queen cells when they introduced the new queen, now they have a emergency queen heading their hive, it happens all the time, anytime introducing a new queen cells should be watched for. this can happen when taking old queen out and introducing a young queen, not all hives build cells when swapping out young and old queens but when it takes a while like Russians queen introduction, always watch for cells.

That's right.... ;)

rast · March 01, 2009, 08:11:25 PM

Bjornbee, there were not any eggs in the frame I moved over. It was one of those picture perfect frames of a large oval of capped brood with the honey in the upper corners and pollen in the lower parts. Both sides. I didn't want any eggs because of what you spoke of. They already had uncapped queen cells and nothing to put in them.

BjornBee · March 02, 2009, 08:24:09 AM

rast,
You mean queen cups(?)

Let us know when she gets out. I guess it is now day 7.......

Cossack · March 02, 2009, 04:35:00 PM

I am having the same problem with one of my hives. The queen died with the majority of the hive. The brood hatched and I have maybe 100 bees left alive. I am going to replace her with a new queen.
Good Luck.

rast · March 05, 2009, 06:21:58 PM

Quote from: BjornBee on March 02, 2009, 08:24:09 AM
rast,
You mean queen cups(?)

Let us know when she gets out. I guess it is now day 7.......

I guess queen cups is probably correct.
This evening was the first chance I had to open it and look. The cage was empty and eggs and larva were present in the two frames I pulled. They also started taking the syrup again a couple of days ago and were bringing in pollen today while I had it apart. Some of the larva were just starting to C shape.

BjornBee · March 05, 2009, 06:39:45 PM

She's been out at least 4 days or a tad longer. :devilbanana:

rast · March 15, 2009, 09:54:59 PM

Just reporting back. Wow what a difference in a hive. Kittens compared to the lions they were. Eating me out of house and home now also. I moved them yesterday to an orange grove that is just starting to blossom.

TwT · March 17, 2009, 06:15:11 AM

Glad to hear everything worked out fine!!