New Package Building Cross Comb

Started by SawBee, June 08, 2010, 10:58:27 AM

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SawBee

This is my second year with hives.  I'm using all top bar hives.  Installed a new package of Buckfast bees May 15, 2010.  They have drawn 7 bars of wax and are in the process of filling them with brood and some honey.  They have connected adjacent bars with comb on 5 of the 7 bars.  I tried cutting them apart yesterday, but they started collapsing.  I attempted to fasten one section of brood and honey to a new top bar with zip ties, but the comb was too new and fragile to hold.  I closed the hive back up to take time to devise a repair strategy.

I'm considering taking all 5 the cross connected bars out of the hive in one connected group and placing them in a new top bar hive till all the brood hatch.  Then combining them back together in the original hive.

But, I'm open to other suggestions.



Michael Bush

Take the straigtest comb on the bar and put that at the "open" end and put the rest all the way to the front.  That way they have a straight guide for the next bar.

Then build five frames to fit.  Cut the combs and rubber band them into the frames.
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SawBee

Quote from: Michael Bush on June 09, 2010, 05:39:06 AM
Take the straigtest comb on the bar and put that at the "open" end and put the rest all the way to the front.  That way they have a straight guide for the next bar.

Then build five frames to fit.  Cut the combs and rubber band them into the frames.

That sounds like a practical and workable solution.  Thanks Michael.

Thymaridas

I used to have a problem with cross combing in my 2 Warre hives. Check to make sure that you have the spacing right.

And now when making the top bars, I now cut some square stock on the diagonal and attach that to the bar so that the cross section looks like
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  \/

Put a bead of wax along the point and your bees will draw out nice straight comb. Works every time.

SawBee

Quote from: Thymaridas on June 09, 2010, 10:47:07 AM
I used to have a problem with cross combing in my 2 Warre hives. Check to make sure that you have the spacing right.

And now when making the top bars, I now cut some square stock on the diagonal and attach that to the bar so that the cross section looks like
  __
  \/

Put a bead of wax along the point and your bees will draw out nice straight comb. Works every time.


I used 1 3/8 inch wide top bars (maybe should have used 1 1/4  for brood) and I also have the V shaped extension on the bottom of the bar.   I didn't use a wax bead.  I may have to try wax  next time.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Michael Bush

1 1/4" is, in my experience the best.  1 3/8" should work ok, but they may get off a bit, and any wider is not going to work well for brood, but may work fine for honey.
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