Bee blogs

[slacker361]

I have seen numerous people with bee blogs and most are very nice.  Please remember when you are visiting to be polite and click those little adds, you might just like what you see.... I'm Just sayin....

[AllenF]

Porn?   

[Hemlock]

Bee Porn???

[slacker361]

well I didnt want to call it bee porn .... but .....

[hankdog1]

You guys have way too much time on your hands  :evil:

[slacker361]

to much something in our hands...after all that bee porn

shameless plug:    http://thankyouhoney.blogspot.com/      um the adds

[hardwood]

Hemlock, I LOVE the "boo" bees!!!

Scott

[BjornBee]

I hate blogs.

Seems many beekeepers make blogs. Especially first year beeks. Most are started to pass along ones experiences as they happen, but quickly turn into a "I know what I am doing and let me tell you how to do it my way....which is the right way!" Then I see them here or other blogs asking for advice on why their bees died or how to correct their screwed up hives.  :roll:

Blogs: A place where everyone is an expert! No experience needed.  :roll:

[slacker361]

wow mine just talks about honey ..... can someone help me get this knife out my back I just cant seem to reach it ....LOL

[Hemlock]

I LOVE the "boo" bees!!!

Don't we all!

I hate blogs.

That from the guy with 3 blog links in his signature.  That's a laugh!

[BjornBee]

While some suggest that all websites are blogs, and all blogs are websites, I define a blog as a chronological diary where any person, regardless of qualifications, experience, or commonsense, details his experiences through his viewpoint, making many wrong assumptions and statements. I have seen "blogs" from first year beekeepers who seemingly have all the answers, and border on making them sound as experts.

Many blogs start out as "I decided to start this blog to detail my experiences" and quickly turn into advice and statements from the angle of being an expert.

Far different than most websites.

Yes, I have three bee websites (and more non-bee related). If I had none....one could claim I had no experience to make such statements. If I say I have websites....you get to say I'm a hypocrite for making such statements. Either way....you get to complain. But I said I hate blogs. Not all blog...and certainly not my own websites. Just yours..... :roll:

While I am no fan of the stuck-up crowd who portray themselves as experts by the mere fact of writing a book, I also think many more come to the realization that they also are experts for the mere fact of being able to put stuff on a blog, with far less qualifications, experience, or knowledge.

Blogging....today's new published authors, but with far less expertise.  :-D

[slacker361]

so anyways these adds actually earn money. it helps to pay for the website for there year. so if you happen to be by my blog... click around it wont cost anything.... :delivery:

[hankdog1]

I don't see blogs any worse then having books with pictures of queen cells calling them worker cells.  Just like everything else in this world you've gotta wade through the crap and well bee pron to get to the truth.   :shock:

The truth is out there!

[annette]

wow mine just talks about honey ..... can someone help me get this knife out my back I just cant seem to reach it ....LOL

Very important to keep your sense of humor, you seem to be doing a great job!!

[Hemlock]

While I am no fan of the stuck-up crowd who portray themselves as experts by the mere fact of writing a book, I also think many more come to the realization that they also are experts for the mere fact of being able to put stuff on a blog, with far less qualifications, experience, or knowledge

You said people who have written a books are 'Stuck up' and people who blog aren't 'Qualified'. 

Laughing even harder now...

[BjornBee]

While I am no fan of the stuck-up crowd who portray themselves as experts by the mere fact of writing a book, I also think many more come to the realization that they also are experts for the mere fact of being able to put stuff on a blog, with far less qualifications, experience, or knowledge

You said people who have written a books are 'Stuck up' and people who blog aren't 'Qualified'. 

Laughing even harder now...

Might as well laugh. You didn't get what I said anyways.

I said there was a crowd out there who just happen to of written books, and are also stuck up. You, made it out to mean that ALL folks who write books are stuck up. Two different things.

I was once told by an author of one book, while I was discussing the merit of some detail in beekeeping with another beek who just happened to of written another book, that my explanation and information was not "worthy" since I was not a published author, while the other person in fact was. The stance was not based on who was right or wrong, but was rather based on one person being published and another was not. For me, there is a small inner circle of snobs that make the bee circuit, look down upon others with disdain, and think they are better than others for the mere fact of being in some inner circle of published people.

And don't even get me started on those "master beekeeper" snobs. They are even worse.  :roll:

Difference between myself and many others........they don't have the guts to say this stuff on a forum. But behind closed doors, while making sure they don't get noticed or speak too loudly....many say the same things.   ;) You know who you are.  :-D

[AllenF]

June's rant started? 

[Hemlock]

June's rant started?  

Well it is swarm season, right!  :-D


slacker361,
I went to your blog and hit a bunch of links.  Hope it helps.

[Hemlock]

First we read this;

Blogs: A place where everyone is an expert! No experience needed.  :roll:

Then we read this;

I define a blog as a chronological diary where any person, regardless of qualifications, experience, or commonsense,..., making many wrong assumptions and statements.
Blogging....today's new published authors, but with far less expertise.  :-D

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The same guy states;

Many blogs start out as "I decided to start this blog to detail my experiences" and quickly turn into advice and statements from the angle of being an expert.
Far different than most websites.
Yes, I have three bee websites...

Which segregates Blogs from Websites.  Blogs being amateurish and Websites being erudite maybe.

Yet, oddly, we then read this;

I was once told by an author of one book, ..., that my explanation and information was not "worthy" since I was not a published author, while the other person in fact was.

Some how He manages to say this without choking on his own vitriol;

The stance was not based on who was right or wrong, but was rather based on one person being published and another was not.

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And says of the detractors;

snobs that make the bee circuit, look down upon others with disdain, and think they are better than others for the mere fact of being in some inner circle of published people.

Question - Is he doing the exact same thing now that the published author did to him then?

It looks like 'Psychological projection ' to me but i'm definitely unqualified.

[Brian D. Bray]

I must admit a prejudice where the "Master Beekeeper" program is concerned.
It is built around all the conventional scientific data plus an emphasis on community service.  I don't really see the connection between community service and being and "expert" in the practical art of beekeeping.  I admit it is nice if a knowledge beekeeper can do presentations concerning his avocation is a good thing but it's not really a part of beekeeping per se.

The problem I have with the conventional scientific data is, through the results of my own experience, that much of it is based on scientific studies conducted using insufficient time samples.  A four to eight week study in the middle of the summer might give an indication that a proposed mite treatment kills mites but it is so devoid of sufficient study of the effect of the treatment has on the bees over several years of exposure that it's laughable.  Yet these mini studies are pulished and expounded to be the end all and sites the data accumulated during it's short life.  

My experience tells me that if you treat your bees with a miticide (pick one) year after year, that soon your bees are so sick from the exposure to the treatments that the bees languish, enter a cycle of continuous supercedure, and any excess reared queens are quickly superceded too.  The only thing that will save the bees from dwindling away in this country are those of us who refuse to prop up our bees with medications, and other substances, and return to keeping bees as if the mites and other perisites don't exist.

When it comes to books, and I'm a late commer to this topic as I didn't own a book on beekeeping until about 5 years ago, is that there is so much misinformation in published works on bees that it's a wonder there are any successful beekeepers left.
I spend part of every beekeeper's meeting attempting to dispel advice gleaned from the pages of the latest bee book that a beekeeper took as gospel and he suddenly finds his bees are dying on him.  

A beekeeper who publishes a book on beekeeping after a few years of keeping bees does not make him an expert.
A certificate awarded for attending a series of classes and doing a little community service does not make someone and expert on bees.
A college degree doesn't make someone an expert on beekeeping.
Each case it might make him knowledgeable,to some degree, but not an expert.

What makes someone an expert on Beekeeping is astute observations while shoulder deep in bee hives over the course of a quarter century or so.  An Expert Beekeeper is someone who can have another beekeeper, seeking knowledge, come to them with a problem, and from the discription given by the seeker of knowledge, can describe to said seeker, exactly what his bee hive looks like inside in detail, the bees behaviour, and what actions the seeker of knowledge has done to the beehive so far that season and what part of those actions caused the problem.  Then the Expert Beekeeper can tell the seeker of knowledge exactly what needs to be done to correct the problem.

There are probably less than a dozen of us on this forum who can do that, and even then we'll disagree on some aspects of beekeeping, since beekeeping is not an exact science, and I'm not even sure we would even consider ourselves experts....sperts maybe, but not experts.  I had a mentor who kept bees for over 60 years when I meant him, who attempted to teach me as much of his experience he could in the 6+ years he mentored me, and I've kept bees for over 50 years myself.  
Although I can tell a seeker of knowledge what he willl find the next time he goes into his beehives from what he tells me he saw the last time he was in his hives, I'm not an expert.  I can't tell you all the names of the various parts of a bee nor can I begin to tell you scientific names but I do know what goes on inside a beehive.