Giant Asian Hornet Threat to Bees

Started by Donovan J, December 23, 2019, 01:50:08 PM

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Michael Bush

> Are they ground hornets ?

I'm no expert, but what I was reading on honeybeesuite said they nest high up in a tree...
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van from Arkansas

I guess it possible the Asian hornets to live in a tree but I believe ground nesting is preferred.  The nest is composed of stackable combs and takes a considerable size cavity.  A YouTube video exposed a ground nest about 3 feet deep and 2 feet wide with the layered paper or stackable paper nest.  Similar to a yellow jacket, only bigger.

The European hornets which visit my apiary killing my bees build the football size paper nest: like the bald face hornets.

I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

Donovan J

Quote from: van from Arkansas on December 25, 2019, 07:59:06 PM
I guess it possible the Asian hornets to live in a tree but I believe ground nesting is preferred.  The nest is composed of stackable combs and takes a considerable size cavity.  A YouTube video exposed a ground nest about 3 feet deep and 2 feet wide with the layered paper or stackable paper nest.  Similar to a yellow jacket, only bigger.

The European hornets which visit my apiary killing my bees build the football size paper nest: like the bald face hornets.

We found a bald faced hornet nest in a apple tree about five years ago in my grandparents garden and we captured it and froze it so all the bees die. We have it laying around somewhere.

Michael Bush

These have not been found in AR.  They have only been found in OR that I know of...
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van from Arkansas

What are THESE??  If your talking Asian hornets, agreed.
Enjoy the holidays.
Van
I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

van from Arkansas

Quote from: Michael Bush on December 25, 2019, 01:40:14 PM
> Are they ground hornets ?

I'm no expert, but what I was reading on honeybeesuite said they nest high up in a tree...

Quote from honeybeesuite;

Inconspicuous underground cavities. mid paragraph.

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I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

Donovan J

Quote from: van from Arkansas on December 26, 2019, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: Michael Bush on December 25, 2019, 01:40:14 PM
> Are they ground hornets ?

I'm no expert, but what I was reading on honeybeesuite said they nest high up in a tree...

Quote from honeybeesuite;

Inconspicuous underground cavities. mid paragraph.

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I can believe the pain that could come from accidentally stepping on a nest

Mamm7215

I wonder if a can of tuna with a few drops of Frontline tick and flea solution would work on these hornets.  I know it works amazingly well on yellow jackets.  I had a lot of yellow jackets bothering my hive in late August.  After a treated tin of flake light tuna they disappeared in about 2-3 days.  About a week and a half later I saw the odd small wasp but never any numbers after that.  There's Youtube videos on it and they use cat food but the yellow jackets I had never touched it.  Regular flake tuna they covered in about 2 minutes after I put it out.

Bob Wilson

Van. I also saw that video of the honey bees balling and over heating the hornet. By the way, I also swatt troublesome hornets/yellow jacket queens/carpenter bees. I have found that the best swatter is a badmitton racket... we call it "bee badmitton". The racket is light weight, fast, and has a large striking area.
Let the games commence!!!

Donovan J

Quote from: bobll on December 30, 2019, 04:41:08 PM
Van. I also saw that video of the honey bees balling and over heating the hornet. By the way, I also swatt troublesome hornets/yellow jacket queens/carpenter bees. I have found that the best swatter is a badmitton racket... we call it "bee badmitton". The racket is light weight, fast, and has a large striking area.
Let the games commence!!!

Wasps:0
Badminton racket: 1

The15thMember

Quote from: bobll on December 30, 2019, 04:41:08 PM
By the way, I also swatt troublesome hornets/yellow jacket queens/carpenter bees.
As a native bee enthusiast, I would just like to mention that unless the carpenter bees are actively nesting in your wooden ware, they really aren?t doing any harm around the hives. They are probably just investigating the hive because it smells like a food source, but the honey bees won?t let them enter. Carpenter bees are important pollinators of fruits like berries and tomatoes that benefit from buzz pollination, where the bees vibrate to release the pollen from the plants? stamen, which is something honey bees are incapable of doing.
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BeeMaster2

Quote from: The15thMember on December 31, 2019, 12:59:07 AM
Quote from: bobll on December 30, 2019, 04:41:08 PM
By the way, I also swatt troublesome hornets/yellow jacket queens/carpenter bees.
As a native bee enthusiast, I would just like to mention that unless the carpenter bees are actively nesting in your wooden ware, they really aren?t doing any harm around the hives. They are probably just investigating the hive because it smells like a food source, but the honey bees won?t let them enter. Carpenter bees are important pollinators of fruits like berries and tomatoes that benefit from buzz pollination, where the bees vibrate to release the pollen from the plants? stamen, which is something honey bees are incapable of doing.
They are the main pollinator of our Blueberry plants here in north Florida. Even with hundreds of hives, I mostly see carpenter bees on the blue berries.
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Bob Wilson

True about the carpenter bees. I stand corrected. They are very beneficial. I didn't see any honey bees in my vegetable garden, even though the hive was just 35 feet away, but the carpenter bees were there pollinating. However, although I keep my outside wooden structures painted, sometimes they wear me out.