Any wild hogs in your area?

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Ben Framed

Thanks for sharing you method Mr Cool ":cool:" bees! 👍🏻

Acebird

Quote from: CoolBees on May 10, 2021, 12:33:14 PM

I de-bone an animal the moment it hits the ground.
Very interesting.  In my home town it was a common practice to hang a deer for weeks.  This process was done to tenderize the meat.  I believe it is done in commercial meat packing houses.
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CoolBees

Quote from: Acebird on May 11, 2021, 08:35:25 AM
Quote from: CoolBees on May 10, 2021, 12:33:14 PM

I de-bone an animal the moment it hits the ground.
Very interesting.  In my home town it was a common practice to hang a deer for weeks.  This process was done to tenderize the meat.  I believe it is done in commercial meat packing houses.

The term for hanging meat is "Aging".

I've worked cattle, and toured several large slaughter/processing houses. In today's Internet competitive pack-and-ship world, Aging is not the norm because it's too expensive - but it is done some.

Aging is perfectly fine, if it's done properly. However, it seems to reduce the delicate flavors of the meat, imo. I've done it both ways - however, stealing a line from the movie Lord of War, "Thank you, but I prefer it my way".   :grin:

Regarding the Slaughter Houses: watching a cow have its hide ripped off by a machine while semi-conscious tears my heart. When one [occasionally] wakes up and screams .... well ... ... I find it amusing when someone says, "how can you hurt a poor animal when you hunt" ... clearly they've never been to a slaughter house. I ask them one question, "are you a vegetarian?" ...
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The15thMember

Quote from: CoolBees on May 11, 2021, 02:56:54 PM
Regarding the Slaughter Houses: watching a cow have its hide ripped off by a machine while semi-conscious tears my heart. When one [occasionally] wakes up and screams .... well ... ... I find it amusing when someone says, "how can you hurt a poor animal when you hunt" ... clearly they've never been to a slaughter house. I ask them one question, "are you a vegetarian?" ...
That is horrible and makes me feel great about eating my own animals. 

Quote from: CoolBees on May 11, 2021, 02:56:54 PM
I've done it both ways - however, stealing a line from the movie Lord of War, "Thank you, but I prefer it my way".   :grin:
That movie was so meh. 



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BeeMaster2

When I have a steer butchered we have it aged between 17 to 21 days. The enzymes in the meat break down the fiber in the meat. We call it enzymes but it is really mold on the outside of the meat that makes it tender. The meat has to have a certain amount of fat to allow the mold to do its job without damaging the meat. You also have to watch the amount of mold. You don?t want it to get too thick.  The more fat on it the longer it can age.
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CoolBees

Quote from: The15thMember on May 11, 2021, 07:00:12 PM
That is horrible and makes me feel great about eating my own animals. 

Agreed. I don't enjoy taking a life much - but it's so worth it to know it's quality. Whether you raise them, or hunt them, it's much better for your body than the processed stuff at the store, with "red color added"...

Quote from: The15thMember on May 11, 2021, 07:00:12 PM
That movie was so meh.

Yeah - it was. But I like the way he said that line. Wish I could duplicate his accent.  :grin:
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Acebird

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Quote from: CoolBees on May 11, 2021, 02:56:54 PM
I ask them one question, "are you a vegetarian?" ...
No but clearly the less meat you eat the healthier you are.
(edited for my friend Phil)
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The15thMember

Quote from: CoolBees on May 12, 2021, 03:51:08 AM
Quote from: The15thMember on May 11, 2021, 07:00:12 PM
That is horrible and makes me feel great about eating my own animals. 

Agreed. I don't enjoy taking a life much - but it's so worth it to know it's quality. Whether you raise them, or hunt them, it's much better for your body than the processed stuff at the store, with "red color added"...
Ich, so true.  My family is not yet at the point where we can raise/hunt for all our meat, but it's something we are working towards. 

Quote from: CoolBees on May 12, 2021, 03:51:08 AM
Quote from: The15thMember on May 11, 2021, 07:00:12 PM
That movie was so meh.

Yeah - it was. But I like the way he said that line. Wish I could duplicate his accent.  :grin:
Seriously, what is with Nicholas Cage's voice?  It is so weird, kind of like he's talking through his teeth.  I am a connoisseur of accents, and his is extremely difficult to copy. 

Quote from: Acebird on May 12, 2021, 09:04:02 AM
Quote from: CoolBees on May 11, 2021, 02:56:54 PM
I ask them one question, "are you a vegetarian?" ...
No but clearly the less meat you eat the healthier you are.  My area is predominately republican so the restaurants cater to meat eaters.  That is one of my "beefs" (ha, ha) around here.
I think that's true to a point.  I agree that people eat too much meat in their diet generally, but I think it's also difficult to be a healthy vegetarian and get all the nutrients your body needs without any meat.  I'm not saying there aren't people who can successfully eat vegetarian/vegan, because I know there are, but it can be a challenge.  Human are designed to be omnivores after all.     
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Acebird

Quote from: The15thMember on May 12, 2021, 10:33:54 AM
I'm not saying there aren't people who can successfully eat vegetarian/vegan, because I know there are, but it can be a challenge.
Yes, omnivores, but people that eat just vegetables are generally more healthy than people that eat just meat.
I agree with you that eating your own raised animal is healthier than market meats.  However eating wild animals poses a risk because you can't control what they eat and what they are exposed to.
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The15thMember

Quote from: Acebird on May 14, 2021, 11:00:39 AM
Quote from: The15thMember on May 12, 2021, 10:33:54 AM
I'm not saying there aren't people who can successfully eat vegetarian/vegan, because I know there are, but it can be a challenge.
Yes, omnivores, but people that eat just vegetables are generally more healthy than people that eat just meat.
I agree with you that eating your own raised animal is healthier than market meats.  However eating wild animals poses a risk because you can't control what they eat and what they are exposed to.
Does anyone in modern western society eat just meat?  I know there are indigenous cultures, like up far north that eat almost exclusively meat, but they eat the WHOLE animal, organs, eyes, brains, marrow, all of it, and I don't see how those people are any less healthy than cultures that eat mostly vegetables.         
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AustinB


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Does anyone in modern western society eat just meat?  I know there are indigenous cultures, like up far north that eat almost exclusively meat, but they eat the WHOLE animal, organs, eyes, brains, marrow, all of it, and I don't see how those people are any less healthy than cultures that eat mostly vegetables.         
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I'd like to meet someone who only eats meat. I have questions....  :cool:

Pretty sure the data that shows veggie peeps are healthier than meatie peeps, is about as reliable as a politician. Same for the other way around too for that matter. We need a good litmus test...
I know! Someone should poll Olympic gold medal winners and see how many are veggies and how many are meaties lol
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The15thMember

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Quote from: AustinB on May 21, 2021, 11:43:22 AM
I'd like to meet someone who only eats meat. I have questions....  :cool:

Pretty sure the data that shows veggie peeps are healthier than meatie peeps, is about as reliable as a politician. Same for the other way around too for that matter. We need a good litmus test...
I know! Someone should poll Olympic gold medal winners and see how many are veggies and how many are meaties lol
Ha!  :cheesy:  That would be one of those worse than a darn lie statistics that Twain referenced.  :cheesy: :grin:   
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Acebird

Quote from: AustinB on May 21, 2021, 11:43:22 AM

I'd like to meet someone who only eats meat. I have questions....  :cool:

I know someone that lives predominantly on hamburgers.  He is a runner and quite healthy.  This is not the norm though.
Brian Cardinal
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Ben Framed

Quote from: Acebird on May 22, 2021, 09:25:40 AM
Quote from: AustinB on May 21, 2021, 11:43:22 AM

I'd like to meet someone who only eats meat. I have questions....  :cool:

I know someone that lives predominantly on hamburgers.  He is a runner and quite healthy.  This is not the norm though.

The only one I have heard of who ate mostly hamburgers was Wimpy! He was certainly not a runner! 😊

JurassicApiary

Being in a valley in the rainforest, we have wild board on our property all the time--and they are good eats!  As CoolBees mentioned, they can be quite aggressive and are surprisingly intelligent.  A buddy and I hunt them regularly and bring home the bacon.  ;). They are quite destructive to property here, uprooting yards and damaging landscaping.

AustinB

Quote from: JurassicApiary on May 29, 2021, 02:06:18 PM
Being in a valley in the rainforest, we have wild board on our property all the time--and they are good eats!  As CoolBees mentioned, they can be quite aggressive and are surprisingly intelligent.  A buddy and I hunt them regularly and bring home the bacon.  ;). They are quite destructive to property here, uprooting yards and damaging landscaping.
Awesome! I haven't met a hog yet that isn't a destructive selfish pig :)
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Proverbs 20:7

Gracious words are a honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the bones. Proberbs 16:24

Ben Framed

Another wild hog on another wild hunt! Hang on to your hat! This bore is aggressive!

https://youtube.com/shorts/HjIVUZdm0n0?si=RTr5OOTruFcsTMvr


Terri Yaki

That'll get your heart going. That makes a good case for carrying a long, sharp knife on your belt.

Michael Bush

No wild hogs.  No bears.  We do have cougars...
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Terri Yaki

No feral hogs, no bears, no four legged cougars but we do have red fox and some kind of coyotes.