Attempted Execution Failed?

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Quote from: Kathyp on January 06, 2025, 07:22:40 PM
QuoteThe "problems" that red flag laws are supposedly written to address were largely created by bad court decisions becoming law and by idiotic laws passed as a knee-jerk reaction to "protect" the mentally ill and imagined rights of habitual criminals. Trying to correct bad laws with other bad laws is just foolishness.

I don't disagree but we have had a number of women killed by abusive SOs that had restraining orders against them. IDK if disarming them would have made a difference. Is a restraining order enough court action to disarm someone?

Perfect vs permissive is a theological theory that God has a perfect plan for us, and when we mess that up, a permissive plan.  :grin:
oops, missed that post
perfect/permissive - theology hadn't entered my mind in what I saw as a Constitutional question

Given that you "don't disagree" with the statement you highlighted then stated "but" .. going on to describe a societal problem that needed a solution; it makes me think that you see your theologically based view of morality as a higher authority than the Constitution with respect to the law. Proper laws in the United States should exist and be justified only within the Constitutional framework and logical extensions thereof. Appeals to morality (or any other motivation) in order to override the Constitution, amounts to an argument from authority where no such authority exists within the framework;  and is therefore, fallacious.   :smile:

It's fine to have a higher authority than the Constitution in your personal life. I would even say it's necessary if you want to be a good person, but boundaries to society exist for good reasons.

Iddee .. for many years, my job put me in a position where confrontations were almost daily and physical ones were common. Mostly it was with low level street rats and most of them were older teens. Many times it was up close and personal stuff and I didn't want to risk losing a weapon in a scuffle. Putting them on the ground pretty much solved things in almost all cases and usually was able to not hurt them seriously. .. First order of business if you have a firearm for defense is to keep opponents at a distance. I wasn't afraid of them even when they were armed. I was afraid of the shame if I were to lose my weapon, partly since I was also a pistol/personal protection instructor.
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