well I said I would try SC

Started by TwT, April 02, 2007, 08:28:08 PM

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TwT

well I have installed about half (100) of my small cell foundation some for, I will have to see if they draw it out ok, all my bee's were on pierco and SC stater strips and all feral hive's but 3, I haven't treated a hive since I started keeping bee's about 4 years ago but I told MB that I would try it to see if I see any advantages, I am not against SC but I have made it this long with out But I said I would try it, heck if it helps any that would be good but I haven't lose a hive yet not using it. we will see how it goes  ;) , kinda hard to see if it helps or not but I ordered 200 sheets and putting it in, who knows they might make a mess of it and I might trash all of them and go back to what I was doing but we will see......
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Kirk-o

Bees were on small cell (natural comb)for about 50 million years.Man came along
and changed the cell size Big Bees Big Chickens Big Turkeys.The Mites came along Now chemicals pollution.When I went to Arizona Bees everywere in the desert I just don't see chemical aided Bees doing good some say it's the mites.I guess its like Cancer by the time you cure the patient he is dead.Small soccer players are faster and better than Big ones
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TwT

Quote from: Kirk-o on April 02, 2007, 08:45:51 PM

Small cell all the way


that is the question for me, but it will be hard to tell because I haven't lose a hive to mites yet and I just tried 20 frames of stater strips last year, people say that by the second year a hive should die from mites well all my hives were on pierco until last year when I tried wood and wax, and let me tell you the drawing time when from 10 frames pierco drawn out in 1 months to 10 frames of wood and wax in a week, so I have gone to wood and wax........ the judgement for me will they draw it out good enough for me to keep it because I haven't had a problem losing my hives...
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Kirk-o

Thats absolutely fantastic.Tell others of your success spread the word .The future of the honey bee could be in our hands.When it comes to Reality Majority rules.

Spread the word Small Cell No chemicals
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TwT

Quote from: Kirk-o on April 02, 2007, 08:59:54 PM
That's absolutely fantastic.Tell others of your success spread the word .The future of the honey bee could be in our hands.When it comes to Reality Majority rules.

Spread the word Small Cell No chemicals
kirk-o


yeah but kirko, I just started small cell so why would I advertise it, My bee's have survived without it, I'm am trying it because I told MB I would. if they make a mess of it I will throw it away(well melt it down), when I tried the starter strips they drew them out right but only on the inch starter strip, the rest was a little bigger and they all still living, they lived good before that strip... it will be hard for me to tell but I told MB I would try them.......
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Michael Bush

Have you measured the comb you have?  If you were on Pierco deep frames, that's about 5.25mm to start with. If you put those bees (5.25mm bees) on starter strips they will often build 4.9mm or smaller.  You may already have regressed bees, which may explain why they are still alive.

You certainly don't have to do something just because you told me you would.  If you don't want to, there's no reason to.  I think, if you are starting with bees from your starter strips, that they will build 4.9mm foundation very well.
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Quote from: Michael Bush on April 02, 2007, 09:34:50 PM
Have you measured the comb you have?  If you were on Pierco deep frames, that's about 5.25mm to start with. If you put those bees (5.25mm bees) on starter strips they will often build 4.9mm or smaller.  You may already have regressed bees, which may explain why they are still alive.


no I didnt messure MB, but they lived past the second year with out the strips and when I used the strips the smallest cells looked like it was from the 1.5-2 inch strips, they drew them out ok thats why I think the foundation will be ok. the cells under the 1 inch starter strip looked like bigger cells but all different sizes as you looked down the comb...



Quote from: Michael Bush on April 02, 2007, 09:34:50 PM

You certainly don't have to do something just because you told me you would.  If you don't want to, there's no reason to.  I think, if you are starting with bees from your starter strips, that they will build 4.9mm foundation very well.



and I aint, but I want to try it, hey, maybe it will help so whats the harm ;) , but if they do I will leave it and add more ;) .... cant hurt!!!!
THAT's ME TO THE LEFT JUST 5 MONTHS FROM NOW!!!!!!!!

Never be afraid to try something new.
Amateurs built the ark,
Professionals built the Titanic