Using an extractor with foundation-less frames

[DayValleyDahlias]

Most all the frames I use now are either sc wired wax or foundation-less.  I bought a used hank crank extractor.  What is going to happen if I put the frame in??  Big fat mess, or nice honey?

Thanks
Shar

[irerob]

   I have heard you can extract foundationless frames but, would love to hear from some one that has actually done it.

[fermentedhiker]

Not sure if this answers all your questions, but it's a start.

http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,16673.0.html

[Robo]

It can be done, if the comb is connected to the frame on at least 3 sides and you go cautiously.   I know many disagree,  but I find spending the time up front to wire your foundationless frames makes for easier work down the road with less excitement.

Just like 100% of foreclosures happen to houses with mortgages,  100% of my comb blowouts have happened with unwired comb.

[Understudy]

I also recommend that the comb be attached on at least three sides. Spin slowly but in a steady manner. Don't rush.

Sincerely,
Brendhan

[irerob]

thank you I feel a little bit safer about it now. :)

[oldenglish]

I would think a radial extractor would also be a better bet than a tangentant extractor

[Brian D. Bray]

For foundationless frames in an extractor one should follow these guidelines:
1. Ridgid comb, not shoft, at least one month old.
2. Attached to 3 sides of the frames.
3. Radial extractor preferred.
4. Use ramp switch, staft slow and increase speed gradually (good idea anytime).
5. Ramp extractor speed down to off (also a good idea anytime).
6. Use of uncapping knife, of some kind, or uncapping fork is assumed.

[DayValleyDahlias]

Mine is an older hand crank...I bought it because it really seemed like a good price. I am hoping to have a decent amount of surplus this year.  It is the kind you have to turn frames, is that tangential?

[justgojumpit]

yes, that is a tangential.

justgojumpit

[Michael Bush]

>For foundationless frames in an extractor one should follow these guidelines:
1. Ridgid comb, not shoft, at least one month old.
2. Attached to 3 sides of the frames.
3. Radial extractor preferred.
4. Use ramp switch, staft slow and increase speed gradually (good idea anytime).
5. Ramp extractor speed down to off (also a good idea anytime).
6. Use of uncapping knife, of some kind, or uncapping fork is assumed.


And all of that is true of wired wax as well...