Nectar and pollen from the same plants ?

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Joelel

October 19, 2009, 10:02:26 PM
Do bees get nectar and pollen from the same plant and trees or can they only get pollen from some and not nectar ? The reason I ask is, as long as I see them bring in pollen,can I assume they are still gathering nectar also ?
Acts2:37: Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39: For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40: And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation

David LaFerney

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October 19, 2009, 10:14:38 PM
No, you can't assume that at all.  In middle TN this year there was very little nectar after July 1, but tons of pollen.  I can still see some pollen coming in today - October 19.  Still lots of drones flying by the way.
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Joelel

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October 19, 2009, 10:29:15 PM
Quote from: David LaFerney on October 19, 2009, 10:14:38 PM
No, you can't assume that at all.  In middle TN this year there was very little nectar after July 1, but tons of pollen.  I can still see some pollen coming in today - October 19.  Still lots of drones flying by the way.

I figured where there are plants blooming,there is pollen and where there is pollen there is nectar ? You don't think they just gather what they think they are going to need , Like gathering pollen later then nectar for the spring brood ?
Acts2:37: Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39: For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40: And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation

David LaFerney

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October 19, 2009, 11:46:16 PM
Quote from: Joelel on October 19, 2009, 10:29:15 PM
Quote from: David LaFerney on October 19, 2009, 10:14:38 PM
No, you can't assume that at all.  In middle TN this year there was very little nectar after July 1, but tons of pollen.  I can still see some pollen coming in today - October 19.  Still lots of drones flying by the way.

I figured where there are plants blooming,there is pollen and where there is pollen there is nectar ? You don't think they just gather what they think they are going to need , Like gathering pollen later then nectar for the spring brood ?

I don't think so.  I've fed my bees quite a lot of sugar this fall to fatten the hives.  They needed nectar.  It just wasn't there.
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." Samuel Clemens

Putting the "ape" in apiary since 2009.

deejaycee

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October 20, 2009, 07:02:40 PM

Short answer is 'yes and no'.

Some plants are strong pollen sources, but not nectar producers.  Some produce both.  Some are strong nectar sources, but have little pollen or the pollen is unpalatable and unattractive to the bees.

The following doc gives a good example of the mix of pollen/nectar availability in Ohio.

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2168.html

Joelel

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October 20, 2009, 07:59:56 PM
Quote from: deejaycee on October 20, 2009, 07:02:40 PM

Short answer is 'yes and no'.

Some plants are strong pollen sources, but not nectar producers.  Some produce both.  Some are strong nectar sources, but have little pollen or the pollen is unpalatable and unattractive to the bees.

The following doc gives a good example of the mix of pollen/nectar availability in Ohio.

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2168.html

So,according to that many more give both or just nectar then just pollen. Thanks a bunch.
Acts2:37: Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39: For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40: And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation

Michael Bush

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October 20, 2009, 08:40:27 PM
They will gather corn pollen in a dearth and it makes no nectar, so many plants that make pollen will get worked for pollen even if they don't have nectar.  But if there is one with nectar and pollen, the bees will prefer that.
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