Making honey crystalize... is it possible?

Started by marksmith, April 14, 2010, 06:31:44 PM

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I am a smoker. Recently I got a wild hare and substituted my brown sugar in the rib rub recipe that I use with very old crystalized honey.  I took it out of the jar in chunks and used a coffee grinder to make it small granules.  When I got done, it was the consistency of fresh brown sugar with just a touch too much molasses.  I combined this with all my other ingredients and threw the ribs in the smoker @ 225.

I usually have to mist with apple juice to keep the rub moist.  Not this time.  About half hour into the smoke it started glazing.  It did it at such a high temperature that the honey didn't melt off and drip... just leathered up and made the most awesome bark on my ribs that I have ever experienced. The flavor was awesome and tell the truth.... I bet these racks were of the award winning sort.

I tried using raw honey in liquid form to see if I could replecate the results.  No go. It was sticky drippy mess.  I used the other half of the quart of crystalized honey and  BAM!!! (Emeril is my hero) the ribs were awesome.


SO... help a newbee out.  Is there a tried and true way to get honey to crystalize nice and hard like that one quart jar that I had? (Have NO clue how old it was)



Thanks all
Mark
Mark Smith - Elkton, OR

Bee Happy

I think it all depends on the variety of honey you get, I can't elaborate more than that though.
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wildbeekeeper

i think you can add a small amount of crystalized honey into fresh honey and it will "grow" and crystallize everything there.  Or maybe you can chill it in the fridge a little... not sure of that will do it.  Darker honey does crystallize more frequently though

iddee

Do a search for creamed honey. You should be able to find instructions easily.
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deknow

many honeys will crystalize if you put them in the fridge (not the freezer).  if you want to control the size of the crystal, first heat/filter the honey, then seed it with some honey with the crystal size you want (creamed honey for small crystals).

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hardwood

As has been posted, seed it with crystals. The optimum temp for crystallization is 60F.

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marksmith

Thanks everyone!


I'll have to get a gallon and seed it.  My garage stays about the right temp.



To be continued....
Mark Smith - Elkton, OR

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Dyce Method

http://www.masterbeekeeper.org/dyce/creamhoney.htm

Seed with the size crystal you prefer (at least that is my understanding :-D)
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Basically seed and temperature is what crytalization is all about.  The dyce method above should give you all that info.  I find that the window sill of my house in the winter is perfect.  In the spring and fall when it's cool but not freezing outside, the porch works well...
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Quote from: marksmith on April 14, 2010, 06:31:44 PM
I am a smoker. Recently I got a wild hare and substituted my brown sugar in the rib rub recipe that I use with very old crystalized honey.  I took it out of the jar in chunks and used a coffee grinder to make it small granules.  When I got done, it was the consistency of fresh brown sugar with just a touch too much molasses.  I combined this with all my other ingredients and threw the ribs in the smoker @ 225.

I usually have to mist with apple juice to keep the rub moist.  Not this time.  About half hour into the smoke it started glazing.  It did it at such a high temperature that the honey didn't melt off and drip... just leathered up and made the most awesome bark on my ribs that I have ever experienced. The flavor was awesome and tell the truth.... I bet these racks were of the award winning sort.

I tried using raw honey in liquid form to see if I could replecate the results.  No go. It was sticky drippy mess.  I used the other half of the quart of crystalized honey and  BAM!!! (Emeril is my hero) the ribs were awesome.


SO... help a newbee out.  Is there a tried and true way to get honey to crystalize nice and hard like that one quart jar that I had? (Have NO clue how old it was)



Thanks all
Mark

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