ferals and hive dimensions

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wayne

May 28, 2011, 08:12:20 PM
  I have all ferals. They are smaller than most domestics and when alowed to draw natural comb they do not seem to like the spacing of a standard hive. They will draw comb from the starter strip, and then draw a second comb in spots from the edge of the frame. It is almost like the spacing is almost twice what they feel they need.
  Does anyone else have this problem?
I was born about 100 years too early, or to late.

Kathyp

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May 28, 2011, 08:22:04 PM
no, but do you have your frames pushed tight together?
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bailey

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May 28, 2011, 09:24:03 PM
and all facing the same way?
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May 30, 2011, 10:48:10 AM
Yes.  And I plane the end bars down to make them 1 1/4" and put 11 in a 10 frame box.
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May 30, 2011, 11:12:20 AM
My take is you haven't had them long and they are still building. In a good flow they will draw comb out rather nicely like this:

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Larry Bees

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May 30, 2011, 12:36:22 PM
Please explain to me what Feral Bees are. Larry

hardwood

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May 30, 2011, 12:38:20 PM
Feral=non domesticated---wild.

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Bee-Bop

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May 30, 2011, 12:53:49 PM
Quote from: Larry Bees on May 30, 2011, 12:36:22 PM
Please explain to me what Feral Bees are.

In a; natural state - wild - undomesticated etc.

NOT bees in a man made hive, being cared for by man !!

Latin; fera - a wild beast

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May 30, 2011, 12:58:12 PM
If I had a swarm of bees leave one of my hives and go live in a tree for a year and then I did a cut out and put them back in a hive, would they be ferals? Larry

Kathyp

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May 30, 2011, 02:05:42 PM
but....feral and survivor are not necessarily the same  :evil:  Larrys bees would be feral, but i wouldn't consider them survivors after only one year.
The people the people are the rightful masters of both congresses and courts not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it.

Abraham  Lincoln
Speech in Kansas, December 1859

Larry Bees

#10
May 30, 2011, 02:39:41 PM
OK, thank you! Can you tell that I'm "NEW" to this.  :?  Larry

wadehump

#11
May 30, 2011, 03:10:52 PM
my hives are all ferals cutouts and swarms. 18 hives  and yes they will draw on a starter and then add another 1 on the same bar

wayne

#12
May 30, 2011, 09:04:55 PM
  Perhaps I should have used the term survivors.  This is my 6th year and it seems that for every frame with a single well drawn comb there is one with 2 combs on at least most of it.
  I was wondering if the equipment makers might consider a more narrow frame for these bees. Or others were looking in that direction.
I was born about 100 years too early, or to late.

iddee

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May 30, 2011, 10:11:48 PM
Sometimes they like to make long combs, too.



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