more experienced feedback re:wintering required

[Finski]

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Yes guys. I live in wrong climate and I am old.
I kno nothing bout beekeping .

-  But my dead rate is not 40% like yours
- i do not need to waste 3 langstroh boxes honey to over winter bees some months
- 3 box honey = 70 kg honey = 140 lbs

- i use sugar on average 20 kg per hive to keep bees alive 9 months.

- during a short summer in two months I get bigger yields than you.

- i do not kill my hives before autumn and bye colonies in spring from Australia.

TO Framesift: you are smart guy and atleast you try. i can see better the USA CLIMATE.

You speak "we". Who we? A big USA? Or about  Carolina which even not have real winter.

What do you understand about Us climate like Alaska, about Michican, about Florida?


Forums  biggest mistake is that guru's advices are relevant everyhere but my nowhere.

You feed sugar in summer from from tiny jars and feed honey in winter .
I let bees pick they food from nature and take honey away and sell it.

You say that you have deart in USA. That is rubbish. It cannot be in whole North America. Big rubbish.


It is waste of life to debate with you. Keep your 40% losses and  bye bees from Australia.

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[FRAMEshift]

-  But my dead rate is not 40% like yours

Our beeyards did not lose any hives last winter.  But I think we were just lucky.

- i use sugar on average 20 kg per hive to keep bees alive 9 months.

We also use about 20 kg for each new package or  split.  But that is only in the first year.  After that we use no sugar.

- during a short summer in two months I get bigger yields than you.

Yes, I am very envious.  The highest yields in the US are in the cold states... Minnesota and North Dakota.... as well as Louisiana which has swamps and lots of surface water and flowering plants that do not exist in other states.

TO Framesift: you are smart guy and at least you try. i can see better the USA CLIMATE.

You speak "we". Who we? A big USA? Or about  Carolina which even not have real winter.

When I say "we", I mean our beeyards.  My daughter and I have two beeyards about 70 miles apart.  I can't speak for North Carolina and certainly not for the whole country.  But I don't think you understand the entire US climate.

What do you understand about Us climate like Alaska, about Michican, about Florida?

Not much.  I don't claim to.   Finski, I lived in Sweden for 4 years, (1 year in Umea) so I do know what a real winter is.  But I was not keeping bees then.

You say that you have deart in USA. That is rubbish. It cannot be in whole North America. Big rubbish.

A large part of the US does have a dearth.  It's worse in the South where I live.  We (in our beeyards) have little nectar between July 15 and September 1.  The bees still bring in pollen but they are eating their stores during this time.  New hives must get some sugar during this time (in most years) to keep the bee population up.  In subsequent years we just leave enough honey  to get the bees through this time.

[Finski]

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My brother kept bees 20 yyear in Piteå
near Umeå. I told him what do.it was not complex.
He started  about 1972  with Langstroth and
with Italian bees. He  got there 50 kg per hive.

Swedish don't kept Langstroth in those days  and no Italias in North.

Then he got Carniolan swarm and it was good.

texas is 3 fold size  of Finland. Why I should understand your climate. It is good if you undertand yourself that you need not kill bees before winter.