Virgin queens and swarms

Started by backyard warrior, April 21, 2012, 06:25:15 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

backyard warrior

Will a hive swarm if the queen is removed once the queen cells inside the hive hatch out??? Or will the first queen go around and kill all the virgin queens not hatched?? My concern is will they swarm with virgin queens in a queenless hive ?? thanks Chris

Kathyp

sometimes.  it's not so uncommon for a hive to throw after swarms with virgin queens.  my observation is that this happens most often in a hive with very limited room.  trees, small wall spaces, etc.  you if you have done a split and left lots of room for the new queen i'd bet that you would be ok.

if you are concerned, you can split again if you have enough bees. put some cells in one nuc and some in another. 
The people the people are the rightful masters of both congresses and courts not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it.

Abraham  Lincoln
Speech in Kansas, December 1859

Michael Bush

If you are asking if removing the laying queen will stop them from swarming, no it won't.  removing here and some frames of brood and honey have a good chance of stopping them from swarming though...
My website:  bushfarms.com/bees.htm en espanol: bushfarms.com/es_bees.htm  auf deutsche: bushfarms.com/de_bees.htm  em portugues:  bushfarms.com/pt_bees.htm
My book:  ThePracticalBeekeeper.com
-------------------
"Everything works if you let it."--James "Big Boy" Medlin

backyard warrior

thanks for the info i guess im going to go threw the hives and remove all put one queen cell.  Im trying to keep the hives congested with bees for a good nectar collection without losing them to a swarm.  chris

FRAMEshift

Quote from: backyard warrior on April 22, 2012, 10:23:00 AM
thanks for the info i guess im going to go threw the hives and remove all put one queen cell.  Im trying to keep the hives congested with bees for a good nectar collection without losing them to a swarm.  chris

There is no reason to remove any queen cells unless you plan to use them in another split.  If you reduce the number of bees and open brood and honey, that will stop any afterswarms.  Removing all but one is dangerous because the one you leave may be deficient or dead.
"You never can tell with bees."  --  Winnie-the-Pooh