Food Grade Buckets Question

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Hoot Owl Lane Bees

March 21, 2013, 12:19:41 AM
A friend can get me all the food grade buckets I want for FREE. :-D The catch is they had pickles in them. :? Can I rinse them with Clorox so I can use them for HONEY?
Thank You
Jim

bailey

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March 21, 2013, 12:31:39 AM
I wouldn't. I have a gallon glass pickle jar that has been empty and washed for 3 years.
Can still smell pickles when I take the top off.
Bailey
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Moots

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March 21, 2013, 12:36:44 AM
Quote from: bailey on March 21, 2013, 12:31:39 AM
I wouldn't. I have a gallon glass pickle jar that has been empty and washed for 3 years.
Can still smell pickles when I take the top off.
Bailey

This was my original thought...A food grade 5 gallon bucket is $3.97 at Lowes...How many do you need?  Is it really worth chancing it?

deknow

#4
March 21, 2013, 08:46:28 AM
I may be wrong, but I have a hard time believing that Lowes has food grade buckets.

We live in Leominster (home  of Plastican) and asked a former exec about the food grade vs non food grade.  The difference (in their case) is how the bucket is handled after it is molded...the same plastic, the same mold...but are the workers wearing gloves?  Are the buckets stacked/stored in such a way as to not pick up contamination?

So, I'm sure the plastic is the same plastic as the "food grade" buckets...but I doubt our health inspectors (city or state) would accept them as food grade.

deknow

Intheswamp

#5
March 21, 2013, 09:43:14 AM
But deknow, that would mean all the dishes and cookware at places like walmart, Sears, etc., could not be considered "food safe", too...right?  I believe it has a lot to do with plastic purity and what type of mold release compound is used and...everything to do with how they're manufactured rather than "after the fact".

Lowe's has white plastic buckets that come with a "FOOD GRADE!" sticker attached to them, so there must be something that allows them to wear that badge.  They also have white buckets that do not have the sticker.  The problem I'm having is coming up with good lids for the buckets...all that I've found at Lowe's has been the little short-lipped blue lids but they don't seem to seal very well.

Ed
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Moots

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March 21, 2013, 09:48:27 AM
Quote from: deknow on March 21, 2013, 08:46:28 AM
I may be wrong, but I have a hard time believing that Lowes has food grade buckets.

We live in Leominster (home  of Plastican) and asked a former exec about the food grade vs non food grade.  The difference (in their case) is how the bucket is handled after it is molded...the same plastic, the same mold...but are the workers wearing gloves?  Are the buckets stacked/stored in such a way as to not pick up contamination?

So, I'm sure the plastic is the same plastic as the "food grade" buckets...but I doubt our health inspectors (city or state) would accept them as food grade.

deknow

Unless I'm missing something....Yeah!  I'd say you're wrong.   :)

Encore Plastics 5-Gallon Food Grade Bucket

As I said, they're $3.97....Their 5 Gallon Buckets not labeled as food grade are $2.78.  Link

oliver

#7
March 21, 2013, 09:56:54 AM
All plastic products are stamped, designating there use. I think usda website has these listed. Triangle with a #1 inset pete below,, triangle, #2 inset hdpe below, are designated for food use, there are others. The material they are constructed from, how much heat and  abuse it will stand  determines this..

Intheswamp

#8
March 21, 2013, 10:28:52 AM
I'm not too sure about that.  I believe the stamp on the bottom is basically a recycling mark telling recyclers which group of plastics that it can be recycled in.  The triangle does point to different plastics, though, as you stated with some plastics being better than others.  A bucket marked "2" I don't believe is necessarily "food grade" because of that marking.  If it's not expressly marked "food grade" then it isn't....though the bucket may very well be safe to use.  Your choice.  ;)

Ed
www.beeweather.com 
American blood spilled to protect the freedom and peace of people all over the world.  320,000 USA casualties in WWI, 1,076,000 USA casualties in WWII, 128,000 USA casualties in the Korean War, 211,000 casualties in the Vietnam "conflict", 57,000 USA casualties in "War on Terror".  Benghazi, Libya, 13 USA casualties. These figures don't include 70,000 MIA.  But, the leaders of one political party of the United States of America continue to make the statement..."What difference does it make?".

"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."..."The press is our chief ideological weapon." - Nikita Khrushchev

"Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they wont come to yours." - Yogi Berra

danno

#9
March 21, 2013, 10:43:37 AM
I get all my buckets with lids from local bakeries.   They get things like frosting and jelly filling in them. 

rbinhood

#10
March 21, 2013, 11:04:07 AM
A bucket is a bucket.....the important thing is it should be clean and sanitized before being used to store anything.  It doesn't matter what material the bucket is made from.
Only God can make these two things.....Blood and Honey!

Moots

#11
March 21, 2013, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: rbinhood on March 21, 2013, 11:04:07 AM
A bucket is a bucket.....the important thing is it should be clean and sanitized before being used to store anything.  It doesn't matter what material the bucket is made from.

I don't think that's true!

Some may find this link helpful: How to Identify Food Grade Buckets

Kathyp

#12
March 21, 2013, 11:34:49 AM
don't know about Lowes, but HD has food grade buckets.  that's where i got my last.  they are tagged food grade. 
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Joe D

#13
March 21, 2013, 11:48:33 AM
Yes, Lowes and several others have them.  Walmart has them cheaper, same bucket except doesn't have Lowes on the side, it's just plain white.  I hate to help wall world, another story, but if you sell or put up your honey in jars their Main Stay brand are about the cheapest I've found.  They are also smooth, easier for labels.




Joe

Intheswamp

#14
March 21, 2013, 11:55:17 AM
FRED's has the "Harvest" line of jars and they have three smooth sides.  I'm not sure about cost comparison with Wallyworld's jars, though.

Ed
www.beeweather.com 
American blood spilled to protect the freedom and peace of people all over the world.  320,000 USA casualties in WWI, 1,076,000 USA casualties in WWII, 128,000 USA casualties in the Korean War, 211,000 casualties in the Vietnam "conflict", 57,000 USA casualties in "War on Terror".  Benghazi, Libya, 13 USA casualties. These figures don't include 70,000 MIA.  But, the leaders of one political party of the United States of America continue to make the statement..."What difference does it make?".

"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."..."The press is our chief ideological weapon." - Nikita Khrushchev

"Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they wont come to yours." - Yogi Berra

Kathyp

#15
March 21, 2013, 12:37:00 PM
had not thought to look at wal-mart.  don't have one to close.  i like them a lot so i don't mind doing business with them   :-D
The people the people are the rightful masters of both congresses and courts not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it.

Abraham  Lincoln
Speech in Kansas, December 1859

beeman2009

#16
March 21, 2013, 01:36:47 PM
Could use them for feeders if you open feed. Good for storage of old comb until you melt it. Also use for watering trees and other plants in summer. Lots of other uses for free buckets. Make good swarm catchers as well. :-D
All things may be lawful, but not all things are advantageous.

Beeman2009

Hoot Owl Lane Bees

#17
March 21, 2013, 02:23:13 PM
Thank You for the info.  :th_thumbsupup:I will start checking some of the areas suggested (bakeries and such).
Jim

Bush_84

#18
March 21, 2013, 02:34:25 PM
Sorry if this diverges a bit from the op, but it does relate to pickles.  Is it ok to he old pickle jars for feeding?  I can understand not storing honey in a bucket smelling of pickles, but an old pickle jar should be ok right?
Keeping bees since 2011.

Also please excuse the typos.  My iPad autocorrect can be brutal.

danno

#19
March 21, 2013, 04:25:02 PM
Quote from: danno on March 21, 2013, 10:43:37 AM
I get all my buckets with lids from local bakeries.   They get things like frosting and jelly filling in them. 
maybe I should have added there FREE
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