death to virioa mites

Started by jayj200, March 17, 2014, 07:23:27 PM

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tireman

Interesting video! I wonder if will work in the long run? Is anyone doing any other studies?
It is what it is

Bush_84

There was a big topic on beesource about this last fall.  As far as I know it's being studied in Canada and the uk.  Didn't have time to watch the whole video though.  They claim that they have found viable populations in the long term.  My concern for sure is that their natural environment is the soil and debris.  How could these things live in a hive and how expensive would treatments be.  These things are also quite finicky. 
Keeping bees since 2011.

Also please excuse the typos.  My iPad autocorrect can be brutal.

tireman

I'll agree with you on habitat difference between the hive and soil. Also, long term, could they start to prey on the bees? I know with introduction of new plant and animal species to a new habitat that there can be unseen consequences.(Asian carp, and kudzu come to mind)
It is what it is

GSF

Isn't it interesting how the behavior of mite invested insects change when these are introduced. They "seek" out mr miles so they will climb aboard, and also how the bees seem to transport m to the brood.

The thing that concerns me is starvation. I know they said they never erased the varora completely. What might happen if the sickly vm contracted a disease and disappeared? Starvation makes animals do strange things. People eat grass and each other as well.
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Bush_84

I don't believe these things are capable of being predators of bees.  There's a reason they prey on varroa.  Now eggs a larvae?  Possible I suppose.
Keeping bees since 2011.

Also please excuse the typos.  My iPad autocorrect can be brutal.

Leather Jim

They seem to migrate out of the hive once the virioa get down to a certain threshold and return to the ground which is their natural place. This will require retreating.

RHBee

I think I might give it a try.
Later,
Ray

BeeMaster2

Quote from: RHBee on March 18, 2014, 10:41:31 AM
I think I might give it a try.
This is interesting. Let us know if you find a source for it.
Jim
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KD4MOJ

HHmmm message number 1 is blank for me (no video box).

...DOUG
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RHBee



Quote from: sawdstmakr on March 18, 2014, 01:05:42 PM
Quote from: RHBee on March 18, 2014, 10:41:31 AM
I think I might give it a try.
This is interesting. Let us know if you find a source for it.
Jim
Jim,
I found this site. The price looked reasonable. I'll let you know how it goes.

http://www.evergreengrowers.com/stratiolaelaps-scimitus-womersley-hypoaspis.html

Later,
Ray

jayj200

Quote from: KD4MOJ on March 18, 2014, 03:06:54 PM
HHmmm message number 1 is blank for me (no video box).

...DOUG
KD4MOJ

dang try as I did I just could not get the http to stick
jay



jayj200

what I think ya all missed was yes it comes from the ground
It seams to feed on the oodles real pests everywhere!
bed bugs too!
spiders we have a few nasties here! documented
and some real bad ones down under!
it feeds on Nematodes that damage most root crops and the root systems of above ground plants.
this my I call it a product is already licenced in the USA for crops.
and is available NOW.

to get an address for purchase go to palm beach beekeepers association.com/form/mites

RHBee

Quote from: jayj200 on March 18, 2014, 06:34:34 PM
Quote from: KD4MOJ on March 18, 2014, 03:06:54 PM
HHmmm message number 1 is blank for me (no video box).

...DOUG
KD4MOJ

dang try as I did I just could not get the

Look up.
Later,
Ray

2Sox

This is really remarkable!  Has this been put to use here in the US?
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BeeMaster2

Quote from: RHBee on March 18, 2014, 05:37:07 PM


Quote from: sawdstmakr on March 18, 2014, 01:05:42 PM
Quote from: RHBee on March 18, 2014, 10:41:31 AM
I think I might give it a try.
This is interesting. Let us know if you find a source for it.
Jim
Jim,
I found this site. The price looked reasonable. I'll let you know how it goes.

http://www.evergreengrowers.com/stratiolaelaps-scimitus-womersley-hypoaspis.html


Thanks
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Bush_84

Sounds great in theory, but I'm more interested in what happens in unbiased practice.  There's been a lot of positive feedback........by those pushing this method.  Would be great to see science back their claims.
Keeping bees since 2011.

Also please excuse the typos.  My iPad autocorrect can be brutal.

RHBee

Quote from: Bush_84 on March 19, 2014, 03:54:26 PM
Sounds great in theory, but I'm more interested in what happens in unbiased practice.  There's been a lot of positive feedback........by those pushing this method.  Would be great to see science back their claims.
Later,
Ray

Jim134

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Quote from: Bush_84 on March 19, 2014, 03:54:26 PM
Sounds great in theory, but I'm more interested in what happens in unbiased practice.  There's been a lot of positive feedback........by those pushing this method.  Would be great to see science back their claims.

    Unfortunately not all the results are so rosy. "Bee Informed" ran some tests with beekeepers throughout the U.S. last year using Stratiolaelaps mites and the results were not conclusively positive. In some cases there was no benefit, they do not work on heavily infested hives, must be added continuously as there natural home is in the soil and it is expensive.
http://strathconabeekeepers.blogspot.ca/2014/02/bio-control-of-varroa-mites.html

Strathcona Beekeepers: Bio Control of Varroa Mites


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RHBee

Quote from: RHBee on March 19, 2014, 04:49:09 PM
Quote from: Bush_84 on March 19, 2014, 03:54:26 PM
Sounds great in theory, but I'm more interested in what happens in unbiased practice.  There's been a lot of positive feedback........by those pushing this method.  Would be great to see science back their claims.

What I ment to say is...Someone needs to give it a try. I don't see how we can get proper unbiased information without a trial. If I can get a reply to my email requesting more information. I figure to treat half my hives. Then I'll know how effective the treatment is.
Later,
Ray