looking deep inside

Started by jayj200, May 25, 2014, 08:43:40 AM

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jayj200

looking deep inside the comb has any one noticed the peace signs and the Y's in the bottom of every cell? has some thing to do with orientation one goes toward the center of the brood nest while the other looks out. the girls label the frames.
if one has turned the frame doesent remember was it to the right or to the left?
just thought it interesting
no I don't remember which goes what way
jay

BeeMaster2

The bees build it that way for max strength of the comb. You are seeing the comb perfectly offset on the opposite side.
Not sure what you are asking about turning.
Jim
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

jayj200

peace signs at the bottom of all the cells on one side of the frame. which side?
Y's on the other side of the frame. again which side? in or out? 
what do they put toward the center of the nest?
what do the girls face out?
Why do they do this?

jay

BeeMaster2

Jay,
Look at a piece of foundation. You will see the same pattern on it when you back light it.
Jim.
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

jayj200

which goes toward the brood the Y or the peace sign
jay

Spear

It makes no difference witch way you put the comb/foundation in the hive! Some people have even installed the foundation 'side ways' - with the flat sides of the cells up

- and the bees had no problems with it, queen laying in the cells as normal. So don't stress about it!

BeeMaster2

Jay,
The cell the brood is in is a 6 sided cup. The Y you see are the 3 sides of 3 cells on the opposite side of the frame. It does not make any difference whether the Y is up or down.
I tried to draw it out but my IPhone characters will not let me produce anything that helps.
Jim
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

sc-bee

How does it look if I stand on my head..... upside down, right side up, inside out  :lau: :lau: :lau: Sorry I couldn't help it  :-D
John 3:16

TenshiB

I think he's asking is there an up and down when using plastic foundation.. Jay, just snap it into the frames and don't worry about it. There is no up or down to worry about with plastic foundation.
The bees that do no work do not survive long. The people that do no work get rewarded.

jayj200

look at foundationless comb it is there

biggraham610

Jay, the cells are offset.
"The Bees are the Beekeepers"

Dallasbeek

Some beekeepers can be cruel :lau: :lau: :lau:

Sorry, but I haven't laughed like this since starting on this forum :wierd: :piano: :imsorry:

Gary
"Liberty lives in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no laws, no court can save it." - Judge Learned Hand, 1944

Spear

'Right' way:




'Wrong' way:


But it really doesn't matter at all! The bees don't care! They will use it any way that you put it in!

RHBee

Jay...It don't matter. Put the frame any way you want. Except upside down.  :-D
Later,
Ray

Dallasbeek

The bees are working in the dark.  They can't see whether the cell is "right" or "wrong". But once it's drawn out, there's a slight downward angle in the cell, so then there really is a right way.  You couldn't do it, but if you could turn it the wrong way, nectar would flow out.  Yes?

Nice pictures of cells, Spear.

Gary
"Liberty lives in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no laws, no court can save it." - Judge Learned Hand, 1944

Dallasbeek

Well, my mistake.  Nice pictures of foundation.
"Liberty lives in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no laws, no court can save it." - Judge Learned Hand, 1944

buzzbee

Look up Housel methods on comb. Here is 1 article. There have been studies on this.
http://www.feralsurvivorbeescom.com/housel-placement-of-comb.html

Dallasbeek

Buzzbee, does what you wrote mean that if we turn a frame around so that the end that was on the left is on the right, we'd be frustrating the bees' plan?  I read what you linked to, but haven't followed it to Dee Lusby's article.  I will, but her writing may be over my head, as it's sometimes pretty detailed. 

Gary
"Liberty lives in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no laws, no court can save it." - Judge Learned Hand, 1944

Dallasbeek

Buzzbee,

Forgive me....what someone wrote about Housel methods I should have said.
"Liberty lives in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no laws, no court can save it." - Judge Learned Hand, 1944

jayj200

thanks
i feel like a dope
one of our beeks was trying to say the bees on foundationless comb make this and it shows witch direction the frame goes
jay