Why Grandpa carries a gun: PS. I'm grandpa

[iddee]

AGE JOKES??  I'm only 17.........................and dyslexic.     

[divemaster1963]

kathy arn't you in our age group. old and confussed.

I'm half blind and half baked.

john

Oh and for iddee. Im 35

just a youngin

[gww]

Iddee

AGE JOKES??  I'm only 17.........................and dyslexic.

If I remember correctly, I remember the george burns movie "17" and thought I liked it.
Good one
gww

[Michael Bush]

>WOW. That sure didn't work very well in 1860, did it?

No.  Not for any of them.

[Acebird]

WOW. That sure didn't work very well in 1860, did it?

The thing to remember is that Lincoln was a Republican.

The similarities between a deer rifle and an AR-15 is the trigger and a barrel.  From there it is all different.  It is like comparing a shot gun with a muzzle loader.

[Psparr]

Yes an AR-15 looks different than a semi auto "deer rifle" but that's it.

[Michael Bush]

>The similarities between a deer rifle and an AR-15 is the trigger and a barrel.  From there it is all different.  It is like comparing a shot gun with a muzzle loader.

Not at all.  Semi auto deer rifles with detachable magazines have been around and in common usage in the US since the turn of the 20th century.  The only difference between those and an AR15 are that an AR15 is not nearly as powerful and is made with a lot of plastic instead of wood and is lighter and more modular.  An AR15 is about the perfect amount of firepower for killing poodles... a bit light for deer, but it can work.   The 5.56?45mm NATO is about 1,700 ft pounds of energy and a Browning Automatic Rifle (I'm not referring to the M1918 but the one Browning was selling as a deer rifle)  in .30-06 is about 2,900 ft pounds of energy, making it much deadlier.  The 5.56?45mm NATO was designed to wound the enemy.  The .30-06 was designed to kill the enemy.  That's why it is much deadlier as a deer rifle or combat weapon than the 5.56mm.

http://www.browning.com/news/articles/brief-history-of-the-browning-bar.html

[Kathyp]

The similarities between a deer rifle and an AR-15 is the trigger and a barrel.

I am always curious about this kind of statement.  can you be more specific?  MB covered caliber, etc.  I just wanted clarification of the trigger and barrel bit. 

 

[Kathyp]

kathy arn't you in our age group. old and confussed.

Lol.  Pretty much, but Iddee is a bit ahead of me.   

[Hops Brewster]

WOW. That sure didn't work very well in 1860, did it?

The similarities between a deer rifle and an AR-15 is the trigger and a barrel.  From there it is all different.  It is like comparing a shot gun with a muzzle loader.

The irony about this tired, clich?d old anti-2A argument, and what makes it invalid, is that a lot of people do actually use AR15s for deer hunting, coyotes and vermin control.  The larger caliber AR10 rifles (same platform, larger action and caliber) are used for big game hunting, everything from whitetail to moose and brown bears.

[divemaster1963]

my niegbor has a ar10 he uses it to hog hunt at night. has a 6000.00 night scope and silancer on it. two weeks ago he got 40 hogs in one field in about three hours. the said they keep coming back to see why the others kept falling.

john

looking thru his scope was likr looking in daylight. plus has FLIR on it.

[Hops Brewster]

In some European countries suppressors (silencers) are required equipment.  There is a growing movement in the US for similar laws, and to remove them from the oppressive controlled list.

[Michael Bush]

>In some European countries suppressors (silencers) are required equipment.

As with most gun laws, licensing suppressors was based on emotional reactions to movies, not rational thought.

[Acebird]

my niegbor has a ar10 he uses it to hog hunt at night. has a 6000.00 night scope and silancer on it. two weeks ago he got 40 hogs in one field in about three hours. the said they keep coming back to see why the others kept falling.

john

looking thru his scope was likr looking in daylight. plus has FLIR on it.

In my state night hunting is not allowed.  I am sure NY is not the only state that restricts night hunting.
Be that as it may, I have no problem if this is a legitimate sport.  It could be handled with a special license and registration.  The instances where these guns are used for hunting are few and far between.  I am sure the people of Atlanta would not feel comfortable if they saw a person with this gun at night in there possession.

[iddee]

I think you may want to review your laws, Ace. Night hunting is legal in N.Y. for some species.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/29455.html

[Psparr]

Ace, it shouldn't matter if there is night hunting or not   If I want a night vision scope on my weapon I should be allowed to have one. Period.

[Acebird]

You use an AR-15 for them?

[Acebird]

Ace, it shouldn't matter if there is night hunting or not   If I want a night vision scope on my weapon I should be allowed to have one. Period.

If you live on deserted island you can make all the rules you want.  When you live among other people they may have a say too.  So it is not period.

[BeeMaster2]

Ace,
Why do you want the government to license any part of your weapon.
The only reason to register weapons is so that the government can take them away.
If you do not believe that look at the history Germany, Russia, Japan, china, Poland. They all have registered weapons and they marched into homes, removed the weapons and then later came back and slaughtered their people by the millions.
Our founding fathers knew how bad governments can become and gave us the right to protect our selves from our government.
I spent more than half of my adult life protecting your rights.
Don't give that right away. It is the one right that protects the rest of the rights.
Jim

[divemaster1963]

Night scopes are not illegal . and Hunting at night for wild hogs is legal in most States because of the danger they are.  Foxes and hogs  both are mostly night active.

John

They prefer you use night scope to see what your Aiming at. You can't hunt them legally without it in Ga.