Varroa treatment using formic or oxalic acid, without usin a fumigater

[Vicken]

I can't afford a fumigater for oxalic  and formic acid what me what methods are there for varroa population controll

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[BeeMaster2]

 My method is to trap feral swarms and let the bees take care of the mite population.
Very inexpensive.
Jim

[Vicken]

I didn't get it explain

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[BeeMaster2]

I do not treat my bees at all, I haven't since I started beekeeping in 2010.
Jim

[BeeMaster2]

Look up Michael Bush. He wrote The Practical Beekeeper.  He also has all the info on his website. The book is a good investment.
Jim

[Vicken]

I can't afford this book,perheps you might tell some details about feral bees

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[Vicken]

What is a feral bee

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[BeeMaster2]

You don't need to buy it. The entire book is on his site. It just is not in a book format.
If you want bees that can take care of themselves, come spring, set out swarm traps and hope you collect feral swarms. You can also do cutouts and remove old feral hives and get paid for it.
Jim

[Vicken]

I still couldn't get the idea, why collect some swarm of feral, whats the point in that

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[gww]

vicken
I beleive wood bleach is cheep.  Look here for application methods.  Look all over theis site for ideals.
http://scientificbeekeeping.com/oxalic-dribble-tips/

I hope this helps with what you want to do.
Good luck
gww

[Vicken]

Thanks brother though you didn't tell me about feral bees, I'm sorry for my complain, you might be busy, thanks a lot, I'll see this Link

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[GSF]

Here's Michael's website/book;

http://bushfarms.com/bees.htm

[iddee]

Vicken, feral means domestic gone wild. Feral bees are bees that have escaped into the wild and are living on their own. If your bees swarm and take up in a hollow tree, they are then feral bees They live without any treatment, so some people believe they will also live in a hive without treatment, so they try and capture them during swarming season in the spring.

[gww]

vicken

Thanks brother though you didn't tell me about feral bees, I'm sorry for my complain, you might be busy, thanks a lot, I'll see this Link

No I just tried to answer your original question.  I have an off subject question that I have been dieing to ask somebody.  Where all the post end with  "Sent from my D6502 using Tapatalk"  Can this funtion be dissabled or is everyone required to send out advertisements that use one of these phones.  I would hate to pay for the privilage to advertise for some one.  I am not from the modern era and have no beef but am curious.  I think iddee got to your feral question pretty good.
Good luck
gww

[Michael Bush]

>I can't afford this book

It's all here and you can read it for free:
http://www.bushfarms.com/bees.htm

[Vicken]

Thanks a lot for the information, I got it, you want me to raise collonies from the wild which have survived deaseses, speacially parasites

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[BeeMaster2]

Now you understand.
Jim

[chux]

keep in mind that location matters a great deal when we think of the qualities of a swarm. If you are in an area with multiple kept hives, your swarms may not be very "feral." They may have come from your neighbor's box. I caught a marked queen in a swarm trap a couple of years ago.

I'm seeing oxalic acid vaporizors on amazon for around $80. That's a lot cheaper than many other treatments over the course of a few years, depending on the number of hives you have to treat.

[ScooterTrash]

I have had great success treating 34 colonies with attached device
an 8oz can with one end and contents removed,
church key or pocket knife,
wide mouth Mason jar lid,
two 1/4" x 2-1/2" dowels,
wood stilt 2" tall by 1-1/2" x 1-1/2" square,
beeswax tea-light candle,
doses of OA.
Punch 2 holes in can with church key, see attached for locations, place 2" x 1/4" spacers inside of mason jar lid
(i hot glued my kits), see attached for locations, those spacers provide a gap for an oxygen intake, place stilt 2" tall by 1-1/2" x 1-1/2" in center of mason jar lid (hot glue), see attached, place tea-light candle on stilt.
Apply OA dose to top of can, light candle, place can on top of candle, cover hive and seal. As it will take a  minute or so for the burner to reach vaporization temperature one will have time seal hive and leave area and/or move upwind to the next hive.
One may use an empty Super for the shim allowing a space for the placement of vaporizer unit in the hive.
Notes 315 degrees (F) to vaporize OA. 1) wick needs to be cut longer, 3/8" +, than usual as we are not interested in
efficiently we want heat. 2) flame tip needs to be within apx 1/4" of can's surface with that spacers under the
candle, penny etc, may be necessary to tweak height of the candle for proper temperature at burner as candle burns down. 
***Please always keep in mind one does not want to inhale any Oxalic Acid (OA) fumes***                                 
Stay Upwind

[Vicken]

What are this brownish sticks under the candle, and that paper like thing undernith, can a candle reach 315 degrees Celsius,  sorry for my question, but i have no idea about the whole procedure,  can u clearify things a little bit, I would be grateful

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