Deep Freeze Coming

Started by Ben Framed, March 02, 2019, 09:30:17 AM

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Ben Framed

Things have been going ideally great here with the early warmer weather, up until now! We are to receive 20F Sunday night for the low. 21 Monday and 22 Wednesday. My concern is what is this going to do with all the spring blooms, nectar, and pollen. Our bees have been working overtime gathering and building new brood. I am thinking this is not good. Even after the freeze, what will they eat if we do not suppy them with supplement? And, how long will it take for new blooms to appear?  This could be a major setback if beekeepers in this deep freeze area are not prepared?

Sputnik

We have a dose of winter coming back here as well. Just getting free from the flooding. Today there is stuff blooming everywhere, work fast little bees.

van from Arkansas

Arkansas: Sunday 12F and 100% chance of precipitation.  An ice storm is my big worry: limbs snap and sounds like a gun being fired.   The flow is weeks away so my bees are still in winter mode: daffodils, one tulip only flower I see blooming.  I predict I will lose one treatment free hive due to small numbers.  Hopefully most of my hives are not in full brood production mode: 2019 to cold to inspect so I don?t know for sure.  Keeping my fingers crossed and the fire place going.

This is weird weather, the coldest month will be March, usually is January.  In January we had a day in the 70F range.  Go figure, I dunno.🤞
I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

Ben Framed

Being this is my first spring, I am concerned. All seven of my late fall splits are doing well. I don't want set backs or especially loose one. My advice comes from Woolie B's. He was kind enough to answer me on the Mountian camp-pollen sub ratio mixture that he uses for such occasions. His thinking is bees can still receive food and protein to help get through a critical time, and of the timing, of the bees progress already made, hopefully without setbacks.  This was from his YouTube video.

Dallasbeek

Pretty much the same story in north Texas.  Fairly mild winter with good rainfall, trees budding out early, bees working (on what?) some days, and now really cold weather forecast. 
"Liberty lives in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no laws, no court can save it." - Judge Learned Hand, 1944

cao

We're in for a week or so of below normal weather also.  My concern when this happens(extended cold spell after warm weather in early spring)is that the bees have started raising brood and will not leave the brood to get to the honey stores and starve.  I've had a couple hives die with honey just a frame away in the last couple of years.

sc-bee

It is the norm here in SC now..... yep a butt kicker.....we are usually in the clear after the second week of March.
John 3:16

TheHoneyPump

#7
March-April in the north of the 45th parallel is an unsettled period. Winter wants to stay.  Spring wants to start.  It is a meteorological battle.
Expect dramatic changes in appearances and swings in temper!

When the lid goes back on, the bees will spend the next 3 days undoing most of what the beekeeper just did to them.

van from Arkansas

BenFramed, Phil, you OK???  what was your low temp.  I read tornadoes decimated areas: 23 killed 45 plus injured in Alabama.   Hope the tornados were well away form you as well as others on this forum.  Tornadoes are so frightening, so deadly.

In Arkansas, 12F light snow.  No problems here
I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

Ben Framed

Quote from: Stinger13 on March 04, 2019, 08:04:24 PM
BenFramed, Phil, you OK???  what was your low temp.  I read tornadoes decimated areas: 23 killed 45 plus injured in Alabama.   Hope the tornados were well away form you as well as others on this forum.  Tornadoes are so frightening, so deadly.

In Arkansas, 12F light snow.  No problems here

Thank you for asking. No Tornadoes here and I am wiith you, I hope our friends in Alabama are ok. God Bless the family's that were struck. I have been in two and let me tell you, it is no fun!
It was 21F here last night . Mr Van it amazes me as how accurately they have progressed in the last few years at predicting weather.

BeeMaster2

Weather Underground says it will go down to 31 tonight and 32 tomorrow. Not what I was hoping for. As I said, our pastures have really greener up and if we have frost it will really set it back. We are supposed to have 5 mile an hour winds. That might stop the frost. Tomorrow it will only be 2 mile an hour winds.
Does anyone know how fast the winds need to be to stop frost damage?
Jim
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

Ben Framed

#11
Quote from: sawdstmakr on March 05, 2019, 07:09:17 AM
Weather Underground says it will go down to 31 tonight and 32 tomorrow. Not what I was hoping for. As I said, our pastures have really greener up and if we have frost it will really set it back. We are supposed to have 5 mile an hour winds. That might stop the frost. Tomorrow it will only be 2 mile an hour winds.
Does anyone know how fast the winds need to be to stop frost damage?
Jim

I don't know Jim, I would only be guessing. We have such a good variety of different walks of life folks here, someone should know. Your temp will be right for a frost.  I wish you the best.

van from Arkansas

Quote from: sawdstmakr on March 05, 2019, 07:09:17 AM
Weather Underground says it will go down to 31 tonight and 32 tomorrow. Not what I was hoping for. As I said, our pastures have really greener up and if we have frost it will really set it back. We are supposed to have 5 mile an hour winds. That might stop the frost. Tomorrow it will only be 2 mile an hour winds.
Does anyone know how fast the winds need to be to stop frost damage?
Jim

Jim, your ground temp should be in the 50-60F.  Frost on the ground would be unlikely with the much warmer soil.  I think your grass would be OK.  Now the blooms on the trees high off the ground would be of concern.  I have seen many times frost on roof tops but no frost on the ground due to the warmer soil.
Blessings
I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

BeeMaster2

Stinger,
We have had frost at 35 degrees if there is no wind. I was hoping the wind would help.
I really hope their predictions is much lower than it turns out to be.
Jim
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

van from Arkansas

I?m trying to encourage you Jim.  You making it difficult, Buddy.
I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

BeeMaster2

Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

sc-bee

#16
It is suppose to be 25F tonight and 27F tomorrow night. It will certainly bite the Redbuds/Judas Trees that just popped two days ago.
John 3:16

Ben Framed

Quote from: sc-bee on March 05, 2019, 09:11:48 PM
It is suppose to be 25F tonight and 27F tomorrow night. It will certainly bite the Redbud/Judas Tree that just popped two days ago.

Our Redbuds haven't bloomed yet. Will the freeze still effect them or, since the buds are still enclosed, will they be safe?

van from Arkansas

Interesting weather:  Italy has a 57 percent drop in olives due to weather, unseasonal frost, drought, floods.  Italy, the olive capital of the world may have to import olives.  If you like olives better stock up now before price increase.

I just paid $80 dollars for 8 ounces of prime vanilla, again weather related shortages for price increase.  So no doubt the bees around the world are feeling the effects of weather also.

Fairly sure I will lose one TF hive to this latest winter blast.  I will know for sure Friday: to be a high of 58F, flying weather for sure.  I just can hardly wait to walk close to my hives Friday and see the bees scampering about.  I will watch each and every hive with joy, yes I am a hobbyist.
Wishing all best for your bees.
I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

jtcmedic

It stayed windy in my neck wife didn?t see frost, by time I got home from shift girls were flying.