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Started by olehunter, July 03, 2019, 03:56:42 PM

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olehunter

its about 85  f  and clear .bees washboarding on front of hive for last 2 days .have not seen this before. they have all been busy and not gathered on the front of hive . I have a single deep brood box and 2 supers . the brood box is fully built comb with good pattern .  all frames in brood box had starter strip only except one frame of old brood comb. I was in the hive 2 days ago they are building wax and storing pollen in both supers. why are they doing this?
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pollenpants

Quote from: olehunter on July 03, 2019, 03:56:42 PM
its about 85  f  and clear .bees washboarding on front of hive for last 2 days .have not seen this before. they have all been busy and not gathered on the front of hive . I have a single deep brood box and 2 supers . the brood box is fully built comb with good pattern .  all frames in brood box had starter strip only except one frame of old brood comb. I was in the hive 2 days ago they are building wax and storing pollen in both supers. why are they doing this?
I?m guessing they?re out of space to store pollen in the single brood box.


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You didn't say if you were using a queen excluder above the deep, with an upper entrance above the excluder.  Bees like to store pollen just inside the entrance, and if there is an entrance into the surplus honey super they store pollen there. 

BeeMaster2

I suspect they are planning on extending the brood box into the super. Are you using a. Queen excluder?
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olehunter

there is no queen excluder. there is a seperate  entrance to the first super . and ventilation at the top cover . thanks for all the answers. :smile:
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Live Oak

Quote from: olehunter on July 03, 2019, 03:56:42 PM
its about 85  f  and clear .bees washboarding on front of hive for last 2 days .have not seen this before. they have all been busy and not gathered on the front of hive . I have a single deep brood box and 2 supers . the brood box is fully built comb with good pattern .  all frames in brood box had starter strip only except one frame of old brood comb. I was in the hive 2 days ago they are building wax and storing pollen in both supers. why are they doing this?

If the frames in the brood box are at least 80% drawn out and covered with bees, consider adding another brood box (if currently a single deep) but make sure to move up 2 or 3 frames of brood and food resources to the new brood box and checker board in the empty frames into the lower brood box before you put the extra brood box on.  OR  You can add more honey super boxes to ensure enough space for the increasing population but make sure that there is adequate ventilation (not too much) up through the hive box stack out through the upper most honey super.  You want more bee space and ventilation but not too much.  The wash boarding bees on the outside are either removing themselves from the due to over population, poor ventilation or both especially if it get really hot like it has been in Tennessee.  My Broodminder temperature sensors are show 101 degrees inside the hive during the hottest part of the day.

Ben Framed

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Quote from: Live Oak on July 04, 2019, 01:14:47 PM
Quote from: olehunter on July 03, 2019, 03:56:42 PM
its about 85  f  and clear .bees washboarding on front of hive for last 2 days .have not seen this before. they have all been busy and not gathered on the front of hive . I have a single deep brood box and 2 supers . the brood box is fully built comb with good pattern .  all frames in brood box had starter strip only except one frame of old brood comb. I was in the hive 2 days ago they are building wax and storing pollen in both supers. why are they doing this?

If the frames in the brood box are at least 80% drawn out and covered with bees, consider adding another brood box (if currently a single deep) but make sure to move up 2 or 3 frames of brood and food resources to the new brood box and checker board in the empty frames into the lower brood box before you put the extra brood box on.  OR  You can add more honey super boxes to ensure enough space for the increasing population but make sure that there is adequate ventilation (not too much) up through the hive box stack out through the upper most honey super.  You want more bee space and ventilation but not too much.  The wash boarding bees on the outside are either removing themselves from the due to over population, poor ventilation or both especially if it get really hot like it has been in Tennessee.  My Broodminder temperature sensors are show 101 degrees inside the hive during the hottest part of the day.

Good post

olehunter

saw my first orientation flight about 10 min ago . I knew it was about time but I never expected to actually see it. :cool:
to stand silent and be considered a fool or to speak and remove all doubt

saltybluegrass

Jim - ole hunter doesn?t mention what percent filled the brood box is.  I?ve seen Mr Bush answer this scenario with too much room and advised me to replace the unused super frames into the brood box and remove a super.
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