Pure, Natural, Unadulterated, Organic, Raw Honey

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Ben Framed

What is the going price at a market for such described honey? When it can be found. I realize there are variables. what is a good honest pace to start?
Thanks,
Phillip

Sputnik

In the East Tn. Market, $8.00 a pound, $12.00 a pint, $20.00 a quart. These prices are the average of 5 beekeepers I know in sorounding counties.

Acebird

If you see it in the United States as produced in the US it is likely false advertising.  True Organic honey goes for as much as 12 a pound.  I use to sell my honey for 9 a pound and 6 a half pound and it was not organic.
Brian Cardinal
Just do it

cao

>Pure, Natural, Unadulterated, Organic, Raw Honey 

Leave out the organic and I sell it for $7 a lb. $10 a pint $18 a quart.  I am on the cheaper side around here.  I see honey being sold for $8-10 a lb. and as much as 12 a lb.

Ben Framed

Quote from: cao on July 25, 2019, 11:33:11 AM
>Pure, Natural, Unadulterated, Organic, Raw Honey 

Leave out the organic and I sell it for $7 a lb. $10 a pint $18 a quart.  I am on the cheaper side around here.  I see honey being sold for $8-10 a lb. and as much as 12 a lb.

Thanks Cao, Ace Sputnik.  What would have to be the guidelines to be considered organic?
Phillip

BAHBEEs

I am currently selling at local markets (North Alabama):
1/2 lb for $6.00
1 lb for $12.00
2 lb for 20 lb.

I am still a small tad below what I am seeing dark likely fall honey for.

Ben Framed

Quote from: BAHBEEs on July 25, 2019, 12:26:10 PM
I am currently selling at local markets (North Alabama):
1/2 lb for $6.00
1 lb for $12.00
2 lb for 20 lb.

I am still a small tad below what I am seeing dark likely fall honey for.

Thanks BAHBEEs which side of the state are you closer to, East or West?

BAHBEEs

More like Dead center all the way at the top.

I work in Huntsville Alabama, but live 25 min to the west in Athens.  Both are pretty much in the center of the state...but about 15 min from the AL/TN line.

Ben Framed

Quote from: BAHBEEs on July 25, 2019, 03:07:03 PM
More like Dead center all the way at the top.

I work in Huntsville Alabama, but live 25 min to the west in Athens.  Both are pretty much in the center of the state...but about 15 min from the AL/TN line.

That is a nice area. I don?t know if I already told you but if not, welcome to beemaster.
Phillip

FatherMichael

The FTC allows sugar syrup in "organic" honey.  The discriminating consumer knows that and may not buy it, therefore.

Another thing to consider is filtered vs. non-filtered.  To be truly filtered it must be heated and forced through filters rather than merely strained.  Again, some consumers know this and will pay more for the non-filtered.

The Santa Fe Honey Salon, for instance, sells the thickest honey I ever saw.  It must take them forever to run a batch.  But it is sure good and they fetch a premium price from the swells there.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

cao

Quote from: Ben Framed on July 25, 2019, 11:56:14 AM
Thanks Cao, Ace Sputnik.  What would have to be the guidelines to be considered organic?
Phillip

I don't believe any honey can be truly organic unless you have control of a 3 mile radius around your hives.

Ben Framed

Quote from: FatherMichael on July 25, 2019, 05:42:58 PM
The FTC allows sugar syrup in "organic" honey.  The discriminating consumer knows that and may not buy it, therefore.

Another thing to consider is filtered vs. non-filtered.  To be truly filtered it must be heated and forced through filters rather than merely strained.  Again, some consumers know this and will pay more for the non-filtered.

The Santa Fe Honey Salon, for instance, sells the thickest honey I ever saw.  It must take them forever to run a batch.  But it is sure good and they fetch a premium price from the swells there.

Thank you for sharing the good information. I have not know of the Santa Fa Honey Salon but it sounds like a sweet enterprise. 😁😁. Jeff Horchoff recently uploaded a video featuring his new bottling machine which works via pneumatics. A good chance Santa Fe uses something similar for bottling their honey? Jeff is associated with the St Francis Abby down is Louisiana.  Jeff is a nice fellow and I would recommend watching his videos.
Phillip

Ben Framed

Quote from: cao on July 25, 2019, 11:01:23 PM
Quote from: Ben Framed on July 25, 2019, 11:56:14 AM
Thanks Cao, Ace Sputnik.  What would have to be the guidelines to be considered organic?
Phillip

I don't believe any honey can be truly organic unless you have control of a 3 mile radius around your hives.

Thanks Cao, you are probably right.
Phillip

van from Arkansas

How about:

100% made by ORGANIC bees.

Are not honey bees organic??
I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

Ben Framed

Quote from: van from Arkansas on July 26, 2019, 02:38:43 PM
How about:

100% made by ORGANIC bees.

Are not honey bees organic??

That is genius Mr Van!! 😊😁. 

Oldbeavo

If the bees go near sprayed crops such as cotton etc then are they still organic?  Seed dressings on canola? Fungicides on cherries?

Ben Framed

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Quote from: Oldbeavo on July 27, 2019, 06:26:11 PM
If the bees go near sprayed crops such as cotton etc then are they still organic?  Seed dressings on canola? Fungicides on cherries?

There is no honest way I can claim organic so that question is over in my case. I appreciate you all chiming in and adding good input.
Phillip