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FatherMichael

August 07, 2019, 08:22:45 PM
Saw an episode of SHARK TANK and was disappointed that the purveyors of BEE FREE HONEE gained support for their dishonest product.

I've decided to label my product, should the Lord bless me with a surplus of honey to sell, as vegan.

I've read some of the literature and intend to expose the food activists as the frauds that they are.

"No bees were intentionally harmed in the making of this product" might be a line in the vegan description.

I've only been on this site a while but the impression I get is that each one of us is a tender-hearted and conscientious person.

I feel insulted when they say that their product made from apples save 7500 bees.

What a crock!

Has anyone here intentionally killed 7500 bees?

Ugh.

41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

CoolBees

#1
August 07, 2019, 09:17:27 PM
FatherMichael, my wife and I saw that episode also - a few days ago. Unbelievable! You wouldn't have wanted to hear what my wife said about those 2 women.  :grin:

One of the parts that shocked me what when they said Honey wasn't Vegan because it came from animals.

There were several claims made on that show that were "from a certain view point" ... so to speak ... i.e. twisted data.

The whole thing made me want to step up my marketing on next year's harvest. The Good Lord saw fit to provide me with a surplus of Honey this year, but it sold out immediately, so I'll have to wait.

Anyways - it was a crazy episode.
You cannot permanently help men by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves - Abraham Lincoln

FatherMichael

#2
August 07, 2019, 09:23:01 PM
Quote from: CoolBees on August 07, 2019, 09:17:27 PM
FatherMichael, my wife and I saw that episode also - a few days ago.

It's one of my favorite shows.

Damon is a beekeeper.  So, it was especially saddening to me to see him pitch in with the nonsense.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

Ben Framed

#3
August 07, 2019, 10:41:37 PM
Give me the Land of Milk and Honey!!   :happy:

Remember, we wrestle not with flesh and bone but spirits and principalities,,,....

FatherMichael

#4
August 07, 2019, 10:52:17 PM
Quote from: Ben Framed on August 07, 2019, 10:41:37 PM
Give me the Land of Milk and Honey!!   :happy:

Remember, we wrestle not with flesh and bone but spirits and principalities,,,....

Ayup.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

CoolBees

#5
August 07, 2019, 10:56:18 PM
Quote from: FatherMichael on August 07, 2019, 09:23:01 PM

It's one of my favorite shows.

Damon is a beekeeper.  So, it was especially saddening to me to see him pitch in with the nonsense.

Yes Sir. I agree on both counts.
You cannot permanently help men by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves - Abraham Lincoln

van from Arkansas

#6
August 07, 2019, 11:06:58 PM
The stuff is made with apples, sugar, and lemon and crystallizes.  It?s Apple pur?e plan and simple although they call it honee.

Van
I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

Ben Framed

#7
August 07, 2019, 11:30:16 PM
Quote from: van from Arkansas on August 07, 2019, 11:06:58 PM
The stuff is made with apples, sugar, and lemon and crystallizes.  It?s Apple pur?e plan and simple although they call it honee.

Van

I didn't see the show, sounds as I did not miss much, except confusion.  :shocked: :shocked:  :grin:

Ben Framed

#8
August 07, 2019, 11:44:26 PM
Quote from: FatherMichael on August 07, 2019, 08:22:45 PM
Saw an episode of SHARK TANK and was disappointed that the purveyors of BEE FREE HONEE gained support for their dishonest product.

I've decided to label my product, should the Lord bless me with a surplus of honey to sell, as vegan.

I've read some of the literature and intend to expose the food activists as the frauds that they are.

"No bees were intentionally harmed in the making of this product" might be a line in the vegan description.

I've only been on this site a while but the impression I get is that each one of us is a tender-hearted and conscientious person.

I feel insulted when they say that their product made from apples save 7500 bees.

What a crock!

Has anyone here intentionally killed 7500 bees?

Ugh.

Unfortunately, this sort of thing seems to be the way of the times and season.

FatherMichael

#9
August 08, 2019, 11:18:14 AM
In the creation narrative of Genesis the Lord gave dominion over the earth to the human couple.  He told them to be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth, and subdue it.

It would be dumb of humanity not to raise livestock with which to feed ourselves.  The apples of which this fake Honee is made, for instance, are the product of manipulating nature for our benefit and pleasure.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

Ben Framed

#10
August 08, 2019, 12:21:37 PM
Quote from: FatherMichael on August 08, 2019, 11:18:14 AM
In the creation narrative of Genesis the Lord gave dominion over the earth to the human couple.  He told them to be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth, and subdue it.

It would be dumb of humanity not to raise livestock with which to feed ourselves.  The apples of which this fake Honee is made, for instance, are the product of manipulating nature for our benefit and pleasure.

Agreed....

Acebird

#11
August 10, 2019, 09:15:32 AM
Shark Tank is what it is.  Pure capitalism.  The wealthy taking advantage of the hopeful.  I like that they are up front with it.
Brian Cardinal
Just do it

BeeMaster2

#12
August 10, 2019, 07:24:09 PM
Ace,
Those sharks make a whole lot of people very rich by providing the backing to get their ideas to market. Most of those people would go broke trying to market their ideas with out their money and assistance.
Jim Altmiller
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

Ben Framed

#13
August 10, 2019, 08:06:15 PM
Quote from: sawdstmakr on August 10, 2019, 07:24:09 PM
Ace,
Those sharks make a whole lot of people very rich by providing the backing to get their ideas to market. Most of those people would go broke trying to market their ideas with out their money and assistance.
Jim Altmiller

When I was a boy it was called and described as  (business dealings) here in my area. And business dealings are appropriate words for conducting business? It seems the left has a new word or phrase for business dealings. I have been hearing that a lot lately from the left, (Pure Capitalism).  First time I heard that phrase used was in history about North Vietnam, and a person named Jane Fonda used it? For curiosity, does anyone know who Jane Fonda was or is?

BeeMaster2

#14
August 11, 2019, 02:55:17 PM
Ben,
Please do not bring up her name again. Too many of my fellow servicemen were badly tortured and killed because of that evil woman. If she did that during WW1 or 2, she would have been charged with aiding and abetting the enemy.
Jim Altmiller
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

FatherMichael

#15
August 11, 2019, 06:01:49 PM
It just seems like a terribly dishonest product to me, claiming that bees are killed in making honey, like we crush it out of them or something.

How does buying fake honee (that's the way they spell it) "save" 7500 bees?

???
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

Ben Framed

#16
August 11, 2019, 09:04:09 PM
Quote from: sawdstmakr on August 11, 2019, 02:55:17 PM
Ben,
Please do not bring up her name again. Too many of my fellow servicemen were badly tortured and killed because of that evil woman. If she did that during WW1 or 2, she would have been charged with aiding and abetting the enemy.
Jim Altmiller

Yes Sir Jim, I apologize, not only to you but all Vietnam Vetrans and their family?s, and their friends for bringing up this woman?s name.  This woman is married to Ted Turner CNN founder, also owner of TBS Just about fits doesn?t it?
Sad.

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Born: November 19, 1938 (age 80 years), Cincinnati, OH
Spouse: Jane F?????  (m. 1991?2001), ..Jane Shirley Smith (m. 1965?1988), More
Children: Laura Turner, Teddy Turner, Jennie Turner, Rhett Turner, Beau Turner
 

Ben Framed

#17
August 11, 2019, 09:09:12 PM
Quote from: FatherMichael on August 11, 2019, 06:01:49 PM
It just seems like a terribly dishonest product to me, claiming that bees are killed in making honey, like we crush it out of them or something.

How does buying fake honee (that's the way they spell it) "save" 7500 bees?

???

Brother Michael, It is dishonest. I did not mean to hijack your thread. I answered Ace?s statement which directly lead to this point, and here we are. My apologies.
Phillip

Acebird

#18
August 12, 2019, 08:48:50 AM
I never mentioned Jane Fonda.  Many, many more service men were killed, and the survivors betrayed by the war mongers of the time.  But that's OK right Ben?
Brian Cardinal
Just do it

Ben Framed

#19
August 12, 2019, 09:07:55 AM
Quote from: Acebird on August 12, 2019, 08:48:50 AM
I never mentioned Jane Fonda.  Many, many more service men were killed, and the survivors betrayed by the war mongers of the time.  But that's OK right Ben?

No it?s not ok Ace. I think you know better.
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