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Kathyp

QuoteI couldn't agree more.  So where was the conservatives when Trump handed the top 1% 32 billion dollars that added to this deficit?
Kathyp:

Since revenue is up, the problem must be spending, right? 

QuoteYou don't have to be that smart to predict what is going to happen in the future.

No you don't, but there is a comparison that should be watched.  China and India.  India has embraced capitalism and done things to make their workers and industry possibilities attractive.  They have a way to go to improve lives in that country, but they are making great strides.

China, on paper has an expanding economy, but the lives of the average person are not much improved in comparison.  They use their people as slave labor, and control wages and just about everything else.

The one economic bright spot in China is Hong Kong.  You note that even though the protests have been going on for a couple of months, the government has been careful to not stomp on it.  They aren't even making that many arrests.  There are a number of reasons, and among them, they do not want the massive mainland population to do the same.  They would have no way to stop it if the uprising became a popular movement on the mainland.

Yes, you can have a thriving economy if you have slave labor.  We did the same in the South.  You can also have a thriving economy if you embrace free trade and markets and make sure your people have the skills to participate.  You don't get "eqality" the second way because participation depends on the will of the people to participate.  You do get opportunity for those who wish to advance. 
The people the people are the rightful masters of both congresses and courts not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it.

Abraham  Lincoln
Speech in Kansas, December 1859

cidersabuzzin

Quote from: incognito on September 30, 2019, 10:33:43 AM
Quote from: Acebird on September 30, 2019, 09:15:38 AM
You don't have to be that smart to predict what is going to happen in the future.
Does that upset you? The inevitable will happen. With its larger population, resources and human desire to have what others have, China will have the largest and strongest economy. They have the manufacturing capacity to fulfill its population's demands. But China has its own internal problems.

I am not sure what your message is. Are you bothered that the US is not number one in every category? Should that be our goal?
Are you bothered that the US is not number one in every category? Should that be our goal?

That has long since passed. Instead watch will happen between India and China that is the frightening thing :sad: 
What's good for bees is usually good for mankind. Doesn't that mean sharing?

Ben Framed

Quote from: cidersabuzzin on November 30, 2019, 08:14:13 PM
Quote from: incognito on September 30, 2019, 10:33:43 AM
Quote from: Acebird on September 30, 2019, 09:15:38 AM
You don't have to be that smart to predict what is going to happen in the future.
Does that upset you? The inevitable will happen. With its larger population, resources and human desire to have what others have, China will have the largest and strongest economy. They have the manufacturing capacity to fulfill its population's demands. But China has its own internal problems.

I am not sure what your message is. Are you bothered that the US is not number one in every category? Should that be our goal?
Are you bothered that the US is not number one in every category? Should that be our goal?

That has long since passed. Instead watch will happen between India and China that is the frightening thing :sad:

"watch will happen between India and China that is the frightening thing"

Yes good point.

incognito

What is there to be afraid of?

What we are going to have to deal with is a rise in the standard of living for more and more people around the world competing for shared resources.

Imbalances do not last forever.
Tom

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